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Old 06-30-2007, 10:46 PM
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totally disagree, very soft pace set up things well for Lava Man, and gave APX a shot. Any type of honest pace and its another story.

not saying Lava man doesn't have guts, he does. but I sorta look at it like he is the best of a so-so bunch out there.

who were the quality horses in that field?

as bad as the Suburban field was I think it had better quality. no claimers. with a wimpy pace like that fairbanks would have wired that field. 2:00.5 final time in the Suburban versus 2:03 and change in the Gold cup. hmmm.

and people are always totally stumped why Lava Man doesn't win when he travels. it's not that complicated.
I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:49 PM
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I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
Well it is either a 9 horse field sprinkled with some high priced claimer or a 4 to 6 horse field of mediocre horses. It doesn't matter where they run - thats the current state of horse racing
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:50 PM
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I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
Not true. People will race where they think they can win for the most money.
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:55 PM
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Assmusen thought he had them so-so juvi fillies over the barrel too. They handed him his head.
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:01 PM
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I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
makes you wonder then why they don't ship out west for that easy win....but then, we've seen that before. someone ships out west, and they lose. and then those excuses start flying, just like when someone ships from out west!
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Old 06-30-2007, 11:23 PM
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makes you wonder then why they don't ship out west for that easy win....but then, we've seen that before. someone ships out west, and they lose. and then those excuses start flying, just like when someone ships from out west!
Exactly...grade one races with big purses and all those "great" eastern-based horses don't ship for "easy money"...hard to explain. Before the excuse was the track surface but now...??? I'm a east coast guy but fair is fair...they said the same crap way back when...no cheap horse from Cal could beat the mighty War Admiral in a match race...how did that work out??
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:19 AM
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I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
A Cal bred field of 3 year old fillies would have been competitive in that joke of a Mother Goose, that hanging rat Octave was still trying to finish second, the field was so bad she won in spite of it. THAT was the worst Grade 1 today by FAR!!!! And if you think Political Force would have won the Gold Cup your nuts, that was a pathetic display of racing on the grand scale back east.
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Old 07-01-2007, 01:24 AM
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A Cal bred field of 3 year old fillies would have been competitive in that joke of a Mother Goose, that hanging rat Octave was still trying to finish second, the field was so bad she won in spite of it. THAT was the worst Grade 1 today by FAR!!!! And if you think Political Force would have won the Gold Cup your nuts, that was a pathetic display of racing on the grand scale back east.
I agree the MOther Goose was a joke. A tad biased about PF as he got me caught up and then some bills wise. So Lava Man would have won the Suburban?? My opinion is no.
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I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
And the usual same from you. The races are so bad, it's a wonder that the great horses from the rest of the country don't scoop up these $750K and $1M purses.

btw, I'm an Easterner myself, but fair is fair.

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And the usual same from you. The races are so bad, it's a wonder that the great horses from the rest of the country don't scoop up these $750K and $1M purses.

btw, I'm an Easterner myself, but fair is fair.

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kimmeaster neglects to mention a grades stakes horse from the gulfstream meet and a top barn DID ship out for this claimer and finished up the track with ZERO excuse.
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