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Old 06-30-2007, 07:09 PM
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Great run by Lava Man. Confident ride by Corey.

So strange...he wins today giving a relaxed front runner 9 pounds, when they went 1:13 and change, you knew AP Xcellent would be a factor. He wins on the turf, on the dirt and now on the artificial surface...it sure is strange that he does so poorly outside California. Before today, you could credit it to the hard Cal dirt surfaces but that's out the window...it almost has to be the shipping itself...this guy must be a homebody! Great run and congrats on tying the great Native Diver's record!
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:18 PM
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its great and exciting and everything, but the fields are just not that good.
AP Xcellent got beat by a claimer (Sun Boat) in the gR11 Californian.

Now he gives the immortal Lava Man everything he can handle in a GR1 race?
While another claimer (Big Booster) makes a bold stretch move and finishes within a length of the top pair.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:23 PM
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its great and exciting and everything, but the fields are just not that good.
AP Xcellent got beat by a claimer (Sun Boat) in the gR11 Californian.

Now he gives the immortal Lava Man everything he can handle in a GR1 race?
While another claimer (Big Booster) makes a bold stretch move and finishes within a length of the top pair.
Mitchell sure can make them run.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:25 PM
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its great and exciting and everything, but the fields are just not that good.
AP Xcellent got beat by a claimer (Sun Boat) in the gR11 Californian.

Now he gives the immortal Lava Man everything he can handle in a GR1 race?
While another claimer (Big Booster) makes a bold stretch move and finishes within a length of the top pair.

You know better than that, there were at least two quality horses (beside Lava Man) in the race....this was pure guts, giving 9 pounds and the horse had an easy lead off 1:13+ fraction...of course he's gonna be tough in the stretch. I sure didn't see anything impressive in the Suburban today!
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:27 PM
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Lava ran a great Race
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:36 PM
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Baby, every time we kiss, Hot Lava Man
And every time that we make love, that's Lava Man, Hot Lava Man
It's lava so hot, it makes me sweat
And lava so warm, it's red and wet
Mountain is rumbling, We must find a safer place

Soon half of Pele, Will fall upon your face
Great Nectar of the Gods spews far from Pinatabo
Mixed with a Women's Sweat, it makes the Lava Man we know
Baby, every time we kiss, Hot Lava
And every time that we make love, that's Lava Man, Hot Lava Man
It's lava so hot, it makes me sweat
And lava so warm, it's red and wet

Burnin' through the forest, Where Red hot lava flows
Rolls down the islands body, and into the ocean below
When it meets the cool, cool water, there's a big flow of the living
Rich magma flowing into a sobiquious environment, Produces Pillow Lava Man
And starts a pressure of sea water
Tends to inhabit the vesical size of the basalt
Baby, every time we kiss, Hot Lava Man
And every time that we make love, that's Lava Man, Hot Lava Man
It's lava so hot, it makes me sweat
And lava so warm, it's red and wet

And after the eruption, you lay dormant for a while
Let's just hold each other and talk, For now, Pele sleeps
Baby, every time we kiss, Hot Lava Man
And every time that we make love, that's Lava Man, Hot Lava Man
It's lava so hot, it makes me sweat
And lava so warm, it's red and wet
Baby, every time we kiss, Hot Lava Man
And every time that we make love, that's Lava Man, Hot Lava Man
It's lava so hot, it's red and wet
And lava so warm it makes me sweat.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:30 PM
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You know better than that, there were at least two quality horses (beside Lava Man) in the race....this was pure guts, giving 9 pounds and the horse had an easy lead off 1:13+ fraction...of course he's gonna be tough in the stretch. I sure didn't see anything impressive in the Suburban today!
But at least the Suburban brought us this gem of a quote from Kent D.;

"He didn't just slow down, his head came up in the air and said 'Not today. I'm just not up to it,' " Desormeaux said. "I banged on him a couple of times, but it was like spanking on dead wood."
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:35 PM
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But at least the Suburban brought us this gem of a quote from Kent D.;

"He didn't just slow down, his head came up in the air and said 'Not today. I'm just not up to it,' " Desormeaux said. "I banged on him a couple of times, but it was like spanking on dead wood."
You just never know what Kent will come up with next.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:35 PM
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But at least the Suburban brought us this gem of a quote from Kent D.;

"He didn't just slow down, his head came up in the air and said 'Not today. I'm just not up to it,' " Desormeaux said. "I banged on him a couple of times, but it was like spanking on dead wood."

I hate it when that happens
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I hate it when that happens
So true...............
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:38 PM
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You know better than that, there were at least two quality horses (beside Lava Man) in the race....this was pure guts, giving 9 pounds and the horse had an easy lead off 1:13+ fraction...of course he's gonna be tough in the stretch. I sure didn't see anything impressive in the Suburban today!
totally disagree, very soft pace set up things well for Lava Man, and gave APX a shot. Any type of honest pace and its another story.

not saying Lava man doesn't have guts, he does. but I sorta look at it like he is the best of a so-so bunch out there.

who were the quality horses in that field?

as bad as the Suburban field was I think it had better quality. no claimers. with a wimpy pace like that fairbanks would have wired that field. 2:00.5 final time in the Suburban versus 2:03 and change in the Gold cup. hmmm.

and people are always totally stumped why Lava Man doesn't win when he travels. it's not that complicated.
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:41 PM
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9 lbs is a TON to give in a race!
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Old 06-30-2007, 07:43 PM
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totally disagree, very soft pace set up things well for Lava Man, and gave APX a shot. Any type of honest pace and its another story.

not saying Lava man doesn't have guts, he does. but I sorta look at it like he is the best of a so-so bunch out there.

who were the quality horses in that field?

as bad as the Suburban field was I think it had better quality. no claimers. with a wimpy pace like that fairbanks would have wired that field. 2:00.5 final time in the Suburban versus 2:03 and change in the Gold cup. hmmm.

and people are always totally stumped why Lava Man doesn't win when he travels. it's not that complicated.
If Fairbanks could of wired the Gold Cup he would of stayed to do just that. There is a reason horses dont ship to take the easy money in California. Lava Man is one of them.
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totally disagree, very soft pace set up things well for Lava Man, and gave APX a shot. Any type of honest pace and its another story.

not saying Lava man doesn't have guts, he does. but I sorta look at it like he is the best of a so-so bunch out there.

who were the quality horses in that field?

as bad as the Suburban field was I think it had better quality. no claimers. with a wimpy pace like that fairbanks would have wired that field. 2:00.5 final time in the Suburban versus 2:03 and change in the Gold cup. hmmm.

and people are always totally stumped why Lava Man doesn't win when he travels. it's not that complicated.
You actually using times on artificial surface vs dirt?? Surely you know better than that also!
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:46 PM
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welcome to the hotel california....

apparently lava man is an eagles fan, as he feels he can check out any time he likes, but he can never leave (and win). enjoy what you have, don't cry about what you don't. think positive, not dwell on the negative. enjoy this horse for what he does (and boy does he DO IT) rather than worrying about what he doesn't. is your glass half-full or half-empty?

congratulations to lava man et al, for tying the record set by a grand gelding, native diver! enjoy, enjoy, and hope and pray that they cut more often!! hell with the intact horses, who run a dozen or less times and then go off to make more single-digit runners that stick around long enough to pique your interest, but not long enough to slake it!
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:12 PM
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can he do it 4 times in a row?
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Old 06-30-2007, 10:38 PM
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You actually using times on artificial surface vs dirt?? Surely you know better than that also!
it not about the surface, you said its so strange that he doesn't win when he ships, i'm just saying I don't think its strange at all. whenever they ship him they run him in much tougher races. i would think that would be obvious to you!
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while it may be true about facing horses that are better when he ships, it is misleading to bring up times of the two races ran today.
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it not about the surface, you said its so strange that he doesn't win when he ships, i'm just saying I don't think its strange at all. whenever they ship him they run him in much tougher races. i would think that would be obvious to you!
He simply doesn't fire at all in those out of state races.It's not the quality of horses that gets him beat.It's either the surface or he likes the warm days/cool nights that we pretty much get year round in L.A. If it was the quality of horses,then they would come face him here(they don't.)Even though Monmouth may be more like what he likes, I wouldn't go. For whatever reason,he just doesn't fire out of SOCAL.
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totally disagree, very soft pace set up things well for Lava Man, and gave APX a shot. Any type of honest pace and its another story.

not saying Lava man doesn't have guts, he does. but I sorta look at it like he is the best of a so-so bunch out there.

who were the quality horses in that field?

as bad as the Suburban field was I think it had better quality. no claimers. with a wimpy pace like that fairbanks would have wired that field. 2:00.5 final time in the Suburban versus 2:03 and change in the Gold cup. hmmm.

and people are always totally stumped why Lava Man doesn't win when he travels. it's not that complicated.
I agree.A grade 1 with claimers?It happens all the time in Cal. Crap Fields.Crap racing.Business As usual from Cal.
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