Chris Benoit and family found dead

[FlBred]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

That seems to be the american way lately. Lets not try and figure out why..lets just mourn for the dead and then forget about it all a few...oh look Paris Hilton is out of jail...oh oh a butterfly!!!

I absolutely agree it needs to be figured out why, but unfortunately I don't know if there is an answer. Our society has been dealing with individuals and cases like this for a long time, but have never come up with a concrete explanation. It is one of those things that may never be figured out, we do not know what goes on inside ones head when they have gotten to this point.

I could give a rats ass about PAris Hilton, in the big picture this incident puts things in perspective and shows how irrelevant someone like her is.

Here's the latest, and as I suspected a suspicion of him being an abuser has come to light.

News conference notes from Fayetteville, GA:

From: WGGL shown on Fox News

- Lt. Pope: WWE called police officials at 2:30PM on Monday over concern for Benoit�s well being. Police found all three bodies in the home. �Double Homicide Suicide� is the official ruling.

- It appears Benoit killed his wife on Friday, his son shortly after, and likely hanged himself either late Saturday night or early Sunday.

- No suicide note was left behind.

- Asphyxiation is the official ruling for Benoit�s wife and son deaths.

- Benoit was previously arrested for a DUI.

- A lot of prescription medication was found in the home, legal prescriptions.

- Police found anabolic steroids in the home.

- No comment from police regarding a possible motivation.

- He killed himself several hours, but no more than a day, after killing son Daniel.

- Police is unaware of prior domestic violence.

- District Attorney Scott Ballard stated that a Bible was placed near each murder victim.

- Benoit bond Nancy�s hands and feet and she was wrapped in a towel. Blood was found near Nancy�s body.

- In 2003, a temporary restraining order was sought but later dropped.

- Benoit made no attempt to hide the bodies.

- The DA himself has not heard from WWE.

- Daniel was found in an upstairs bedroom. Benoit�s wife was also found in an upstairs family room, and Benoit hung himself in the weight room in the basement.

- The toxicology reports are still pending. It will probably take more than two weeks for the reports to be finished.

- Benoit apparently called WWE stating that Daniel was coughing up blood, thus likely the �personal reasons� for missing weekend house shows.

This didn't come out of nowhere. What sickens me the most is the guy had the capacity to call in work and blamed it on his son coughing up blood.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by FlBred

I absolutely agree it needs to be figured out why, but unfortunately I don't know if there is an answer. Our society has been dealing with individuals and cases like this for a long time, but have never come up with a concrete explanation. It is one of those things that may never be figured out, we do not know what goes on inside ones head when they have gotten to this point.

I could give a rats ass about PAris Hilton, in the big picture this incident puts things in perspective and shows how irrelevant someone like her is.

I also agree that we need to find answers, but blaming folks never solved much...in the end, if the stories are true and he killed his wife, son and self, then he and he alone is responsible. To say it's McMahon's fault etc is useless...why didn't others see the signs? Well, how about those postal workers who suddenly snapped or the kid at Virginia Tech? After the tragic event, using 20-20 hindsight, there are always "signs" to point at but the simple fact is that human beings are complex and most folks have a hard enough time keeping their lives together let alone seeing signs of trouble in others. The best way to proceed is to forget about pointing fingers and seek the answers where ever they might be!

[FlBred]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I also agree that we need to find answers, but blaming folks never solved much...in the end, if the stories are true and he killed his wife, son and self, then he and he alone is responsible. To say it's McMahon's fault etc is useless...why didn't others see the signs? Well, how about those postal workers who suddenly snapped or the kid at Virginia Tech? After the tragic event, using 20-20 hindsight, there are always "signs" to point at but the simple fact is that human beings are complex and most folks have a hard enough time keeping their lives together let alone seeing signs of trouble in others. The best way to proceed is to forget about pointing fingers and seek the answers where ever they might be!

Absolutely!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I also agree that we need to find answers, but blaming folks never solved much...in the end, if the stories are true and he killed his wife, son and self, then he and he alone is responsible. To say it's McMahon's fault etc is useless...why didn't others see the signs? Well, how about those postal workers who suddenly snapped or the kid at Virginia Tech? After the tragic event, using 20-20 hindsight, there are always "signs" to point at but the simple fact is that human beings are complex and most folks have a hard enough time keeping their lives together let alone seeing signs of trouble in others. The best way to proceed is to forget about pointing fingers and seek the answers where ever they might be!

In other words, the beat goes on and more wrestlers will perish under the care of Vince McMahon.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

In other words, the beat goes on and more wrestlers will perish under the care of Vince McMahon.

Pillow,
Not to jump in, but I think you are taking Somerfrost's general point and trying to make it specific.
I think SF is looking at the "big picture", and I think he's on target.
I am not a "mental health professional", but what little I DO know is that mentally stable people do not commit suicide, nor do they kill their wife and son. This whole thing is very tragic.

[IrishofNDMan]

Benoit is a sick man, what the hell. I don't care what Mental Health problems you have, take them out on yourself and kill yourself, not your wife and 7 year old son.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Benoit is a sick man, what the hell. I don't care what Mental Health problems you have, take them out on yourself and kill yourself, not your wife and 7 year old son.

Kind of a vicious circle... if he did in fact have mental problems, it's not like he could control who he took it out on.

[Bigsmc]

More details coming out.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2917133

[Danzig]

steroid use can make one very short tempered, correct? who knows, maybe things were bad, she called and said don't come home, and he snapped. hell, there's a past there--how many here have had a restraining order against them? tony and i have known each other over 20 years, no cops to this point, and i sure don't anticipate any!

Originally Posted by Danzig

steroid use can make one very short tempered, correct? who knows, maybe things were bad, she called and said don't come home, and he snapped. hell, there's a past there--how many here have had a restraining order against them? tony and i have known each other over 20 years, no cops to this point, and i sure don't anticipate any!

Yes it can. And if you suffer from depression it will only make matters worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Benoit was a manic. That with the combination of steroids would equal a deadly combo.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Yes it can. And if you suffer from depression it will only make matters worse. I wouldn't be surprised if Benoit was a manic. That with the combination of steroids would equal a deadly combo.

OK Dr.Pillow Pants...Benoit was sick we know the story now, BUT every public figure can have the same thing happen to them if they choose to do drugs or are sick. You don't like professional wrestling...FINE. But this can happen in all walks of life. IT'S TRAGIC AND ONLY MR. BENOIT IS TO BLAME!