Barbaro had surgery last night

The pictures showed shift in the structure of some pins. Probably because he was putting so much weight on the leg they conjecture. But I am sure they would rather not have opened him up again.

It really is all about infection now as his bones appear to be healing very well from what I have read. Hope he makes it. And it would be an added bonus for me if he was sterile. I would love to see how all involved would react.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The pictures showed shift in the structure of some pins. Probably because he was putting so much weight on the leg they conjecture. But I am sure they would rather not have opened him up again.

It really is all about infection now as his bones appear to be healing very well from what I have read. Hope he makes it. And it would be an added bonus for me if he was sterile. I would love to see how all involved would react.

From the sounds of it, the Jacksons would have taken these steps even if Barbaro was known to be sterile. It's rare to see in this game sometimes (or any game) where loyalty is aptly rewarded. I tend to believe the Jacksons see Barbaro as their champion, almost like a child, and are just doing anything to help him. Like any parent would do for their own.

Hang in there, Barbaro.

[chupster2]

Quite honestly, I think breeding is the furthest thing from their minds at the moment. Pretty sure that the connections are just hoping he pulls through. Time to think about anything else a looooong way down the road.

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

From the sounds of it, the Jacksons would have taken these steps even if Barbaro was known to be sterile. It's rare to see in this game sometimes (or any game) where loyalty is aptly rewarded. I tend to believe the Jacksons see Barbaro as their champion, almost like a child, and are just doing anything to help him. Like any parent would do for their own.

Hang in there, Barbaro.

Funny you mention Loyalty because Lael is the gaelic word for loyalty.

They would save their cheap horses if they had a bad injury. 80-90% of people in the business would do the same if they had the money, fortunately they have the money. Most people that own horses get very attached to them. They had another horse named Nice Nelly, one of the last daughters of Seattle Slew suffer a break this year too and she is doing fine.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Funny you mention Loyalty because Lael is the gaelic word for loyalty.

They would save their cheap horses if they had a bad injury. 80-90% of people in the business would do the same if they had the money, fortunately they have the money. Most people that own horses get very attached to them. They had another horse named Nice Nelly, one of the last daughters of Seattle Slew suffer a break this year too and she is doing fine.

thought i read barbaro was gaelic for loyal...... hope he does well.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

thought i read barbaro was gaelic for loyal...... hope he does well.

No, Barbaro means Barbarian in Portugese or Exceptional/Superior. They actually got the name from a foxhound in some painting they own. There is a great story out there about what Matz's assistant said Barbaro meant back in January.

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/BarbaroSpotlight.asp

When trainer Michael Matz was asked if he knew where the name Barbaro came from, he called to his assistant, Peter Brette. “Hey, Peter, what does the name Barbaro mean?” he asked. Brette didn’t hesitate with his answer: “Kentucky Derby winner.”

“In our dreams, right?” Matz said.

But those dreams will become much closer to reality if Barbaro should handle the dirt in the Holy Bull Stakes (gr. III) Feb. 4 as well as he’s handled the grass. In his three career starts, all on grass, Barbaro has been untouchable, winning by a total margin of 201⁄4 lengths, including runaway victories in the Tropical Park Derby and Laurel Futurity (both gr. IIIT).

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers

From the sounds of it, the Jacksons would have taken these steps even if Barbaro was known to be sterile. It's rare to see in this game sometimes (or any game) where loyalty is aptly rewarded. I tend to believe the Jacksons see Barbaro as their champion, almost like a child, and are just doing anything to help him. Like any parent would do for their own.

Hang in there, Barbaro.

So you think a claimer of theirs would have ended up in that facility and not been put down? Think of what the vets would have told them. Now a Kentucky Derby winner that has captured the Nation... Not trying to be mean spirited, just real. It was not just their decision. Its much easier when the Vets tell you what is best for the animal... I wonder how many opinions the Jacksons got to put Barbaro down... now make the same injury to a claimer and listen to the opinions.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you think a claimer of theirs would have ended up in that facility and not been put down? Think of what the vets would have told them. Now a Kentucky Derby winner that has captured the Nation... Not trying to be mean spirited, just real. It was not just their decision. Its much easier when the Vets tell you what is best for the animal... I wonder how many opinions the Jacksons got to put Barbaro down... now make the same injury to a claimer and listen to the opinions.

while this argument may have some merit, is it really worth having? No one knows if an owner would have done the same for another 'lesser' horse, but why even debate it? The point is that they did do it for this horse, and thus far his recovery has been better that expected. Certainly he has had a setback but to imply that perhaps they shouldn't have tried to save him in the first place is useless.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

loves barbero but have to agree that this is afine horse and graded stakes winner so the breeding has to come into the dec mix..no nw of 2 is gonna get this treatment...

Originally Posted by pgardn

So you think a claimer of theirs would have ended up in that facility and not been put down? Think of what the vets would have told them. Now a Kentucky Derby winner that has captured the Nation... Not trying to be mean spirited, just real. It was not just their decision. Its much easier when the Vets tell you what is best for the animal... I wonder how many opinions the Jacksons got to put Barbaro down... now make the same injury to a claimer and listen to the opinions.

A cheaper horse would have been put down on the track at the tracks vets rec. The point is that the Jacksons would save any of their horses if they could. They live right near New Bolton and I would imagine they would let any of their horses be worked on there even if the horse has little chance. Money is not the object with them. As for Barbaro, the insurance company was willing to pay the claim which is worth a small fortune, but they kept him alive. If I heard correctly, if he can't breed because he cant mount mares because of the injury (not likely) they won't get paid on the insurance claim. The smart thing for them to do financially was to put him down. Money isn't an issue with these people.

Its so easy to say *the Jackson's would have saved any of their horses,* but the fact is, you will never know that. I'd love to believe that to be true, but to be perfectly honest, this horse was the Kentucky Derby winner, of course they will make more of an effort to save him. I'm not denying that the Jackson's have lots of money and wouldn't need the money from breeding rights, but we shouldn't have blinders on to the possibility that a 5K claimer at Mountaineer Park would not be at the New Bolton Center right now.

But like paisjpq said, its not worth debating because they did it for this horse and his recovery has been amazing thus far.

Originally Posted by Society Selection

Its so easy to say *the Jackson's would have saved any of their horses,* but the fact is, you will never know that. I'd love to believe that to be true, but to be perfectly honest, this horse was the Kentucky Derby winner, of course they will make more of an effort to save him. I'm not denying that the Jackson's have lots of money and wouldn't need the money from breeding rights, but we shouldn't have blinders on to the possibility that a 5K claimer at Mountaineer Park would not be at the New Bolton Center right now.

But like paisjpq said, its not worth debating because they did it for this horse and his recovery has been amazing thus far.

Maybe, but Gretchen Jackson sits on the Board of Overseers for the University of Pennsylvania Veterinary School and her exact words "When you own a horse, it's your responsibility to care for that horse" ring pretty true with them. Han**** and Jackson are really the two big forces in the business pushing the anti-slaugher legislation in the house right now.

Originally Posted by pgardn

The pictures showed shift in the structure of some pins. Probably because he was putting so much weight on the leg they conjecture. But I am sure they would rather not have opened him up again.

It really is all about infection now as his bones appear to be healing very well from what I have read. Hope he makes it. And it would be an added bonus for me if he was sterile. I would love to see how all involved would react.

I really doubt sterility is on their mind right now, but I guess that would only be something a person with ZERO CLASS would say. You must be pretty disturbed to even come up with a comment like that. The owners don't exactly need the cash they would make from breeding him.