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Old 06-22-2007, 02:00 PM
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Yeah, a government imprisioning people for 5 YEARS at Guantanamo without charging them with anything will do a lot to make a girl feel like her country doesn't give two sh*ts for the things the Founding Fathers fought for.

(In the case of the cops, though, that was just stoopid.)
I know it has taken a long time. But this has been challenged legally and the White House is going to have come up with some better reasoning before long.
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Old 06-23-2007, 03:40 PM
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I know it has taken a long time. But this has been challenged legally and the White House is going to have come up with some better reasoning before long.
And I'm sure that will give those men those five years back and Jose Padilla (American citizen) back his sanity.

It really makes me wish I believed in Hell. But I don't and so I don't think there will ever be any kind of reckoning for the men and women who endorsed these policies. They'll die wealthy old men and women in their beds, never having spent a night in jail, let alone five years.
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Old 06-24-2007, 11:18 AM
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And I'm sure that will give those men those five years back and Jose Padilla (American citizen) back his sanity.

It really makes me wish I believed in Hell. But I don't and so I don't think there will ever be any kind of reckoning for the men and women who endorsed these policies. They'll die wealthy old men and women in their beds, never having spent a night in jail, let alone five years.
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Remember this...conservatives will claim that they are "keepers of Constitutional rights" and that those same rights therein provided do not provide nor apply for "liberals".
Of course basic rights as defined should be applied equally and fairly. So what if the Dixie Chicks express free speech, so what? So what if one opposes a "war" (illegal invasion)? We've got cages under the West Side highway where your rights can be heard.
Seems to me that those that justify their defense of the very premises on which this once great country was founded are the same ones that are doing their damndest to bring about freedom's demise.
Signing statements? Military commissions and not habeus corpus?
And so it goes....if allowed and unchallenged.
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