Nice win by Flashy Bull

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Here's a question.......where did it really start? I mean, we used to have good horses, with at least reasonable regularity. Now, it's just an absolute farce.......a masquarade ball if you will. NW3Xs going to the ball dressed as Grade 1 winners

If you believe Jerry Brown......the opposite is happening.

It would be really lovely if he made a cameo here on this specific topic.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If you believe Jerry Brown......the opposite is happening.

It would be really lovely if he made a cameo here on this specific topic.

an absolutely preposterous position

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Entertaining never-the-less

[miraja2]

Man you guys are really hard on poor old Flashy. Sure he had a really good trip, but did you see the way he moved past a rabbit, a Hawthorne horse, and a need-the-lead horse that didn't have the lead? What a move!! Then he managed to break 13 seconds for the final furlong! What a superstar!

Although his victory may be a bad sign for the sport, it is certainly a good thing for us as handicappers. He is now coming off of 4 straight victories, which means that even if they run him in a legitimate G1 (especially if it is at 10f) he may receive some play at the windows. That is good for us.

[Cajungator26]

Didn't Jerry Bailey say that Eddington was one of the most talented horses he ever rode?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Man you guys are really hard on poor old Flashy. Sure he had a really good trip, but did you see the way he moved past a rabbit, a Hawthorne horse, and a need-the-lead horse that didn't have the lead? What a move!! Then he managed to break 13 seconds for the final furlong! What a superstar!

Although his victory may be a bad sign for the sport, it is certainly a good thing for us as handicappers. He is now coming off of 4 straight victories, which means that even if they run him in a legitimate G1 (especially if it is at 10f) he may receive some play at the windows. That is good for us.

It would have been worse for the sport had Diamond Stripes won.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

It would have been worse for the sport had Diamond Stripes won.

Please note that I said Flashy Bull's win was a bad sign for the sport, not bad for the sport. That is very different.
There is nothing wrong with Flashy Bull. He is a nice horse that has now won four races in a row. I always like to see these former Triple Crown trail horses do well at ages four and beyond. I just think the fact that he is now a "G1 winner" is a bit of a joke.
Just out of curiosity, why do you think a Diamond Stripes victory would have been so bad? Wouldn't an undefeated 4yo gelding be kind of interesting?

[SentToStud]

I should have said a worse "sign" for the sport I guess.

Like most, I'm not thrilled with what is passing for Grade 1 winners. Diamond Stripes is nice and all that but to see a horse as 2nd favorite in a G 1 race who never ran in a stakes vs older horses is, I think, a worse sign. That's just my opinion.

I'm just a very old man who yearns for the old days when the summer handicap races meant something and the fall weight-for-age races determined the champs.