Victor Molina Is in Trouble

[MisterB]

They should tie his leg in the stirup, and play Red Pollard in the shed row with his azz.

[paisjpq]

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

[Linny]

It was uncalled for. The horse was clearly a bad actor at the gate but he stood for the unsaddling and it was after that that the jock booted him.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

Isn't the key though to do so while the horse is in the act of doing said behavior?

I think Victor should get the death penalty.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Isn't the key though to do so while the horse is in the act of doing said behavior?

of course...I was just stiring the pot, point is though that we all lose it on occasion. I'm not excusing what he did....but I've made that same stupid immature choice before when a horse has gotten the best of me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I guess I'm the only person here willing to admit I have kicked a horse in the gut for being a ass.hole.

Why should the human race be the only ones subject to your magnanimous nature?

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why should the human race be the only ones subject to your magnanimous nature?

OOOOOOOOOO

[Payson Dave]

Sic him Theb....sic him

[blackthroatedwind]

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

like most of the men in my life...my horse is a masochist who loves to have his mane pulled...

but your point is right on.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

You know, this is pretty well said. Good job BTW.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by whodey17

You know, this is pretty well said. Good job BTW.

Agreed....

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am not offering a defense of Victor Molina, or those kind of actions, but I think that there is a basic hypocracy in these kinds of threads. Considering all the lousy things that go on in horse racing, and the general blind eye most of us turn to them, I'm not sure this specific situation should get everybody up in arms. I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

Although this is the sort of offense that activists run with too. When that jockey headbutted that horse in Europe, there were videos made saying horse racing is nothing but a bunch of horse hating headbutters. I get your point though and from pulling lots of manes myself I can say it sucked for me too. (just kidding)

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I have a friend who was an exercise rider and backstretch worker, one day I asked her what she was doing that afternoon and she said " pulling manes. " When I suggested that sounded boarderline cruel she said " we do a lot of mean things to horses. "

It's a brutal game that we love....let's not pretend we're animal rights activists here.

Pulling manes is much more brutal on the person doing it than the horse.

[SentToStud]

I would think kicking a horse in the stomach is more a failing of the one doing the kicking than the horse. I doubt it has any redeeming value.

[robfla]

[ELA]

I think there is one important distinction here. We are not talking about people's experiences, keeping control of a dangerous animal, discipline, or anything of the like -- we are talking about this specific case. In addition, we are not talking about whether or not it hurt the horse.

This is disgusting and deplorable behavior.

Eric

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Pulling manes is much more brutal on the person doing it than the horse.

I was wondering when this was going to be brought up...

If done correctly, pulling a mane doesn't hurt them all that bad. I used to do it after a workout because the sweating opens up the pores and makes it a bit easier on both human and horse.

As for kicking a horse in the gut, I can honestly say that I've never done that before. I've pulled out the riding crop a few times when needed, but have never been ticked off so much as to drop kick a horse in the gut.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Pulling manes is much more brutal on the person doing it than the horse.

AGREED!!!!!