Circular Quay

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

CQ is a slow version of Officer. Not my words but the words of somebody who really knows horses.

Thank God. Almost 10:15 am here and I thought the morning would pass without a reference to the next mysterious yet omniscient "somebody who really knows horses" to validate an opinion.

I liked the horse going in, singled him and got a little taste of the p-3 ending there. Missed the p4 ... went 3 deep in the last, but left out the 3-1 winner. grrrrrrrr.

He ran great, imo. Dominated as he should have, imo. Look forward to his next. He may well be just the 23rd best 2yo in the barn, then again, he's a Graded winner.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Thank God. Almost 10:15 am here and I thought the morning would pass without a reference to the next mysterious yet omniscient "somebody who really knows horses" to validate an opinion.

I liked the horse going in, singled him and got a little taste of the p-3 ending there. Missed the p4 ... went 3 deep in the last, but left out the 3-1 winner. grrrrrrrr.

He ran great, imo. Dominated as he should have, imo. Look forward to his next. He may well be just the 23rd best 2yo in the barn, then again, he's a Graded winner.

That someone has horses with Todd's dad and she married me too. LOL. Good for you for making money, but I hope you aren't one of those "best 2yr old in last 10 yrs guys". That is the writing of a madman.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

That someone has horses with Todd's dad and she married me too. LOL.

Wonderful.

Answer me this.

If you owned a horse today -- right now -- ranked a bit higher in Todd's barn than CQ... say the #4 2 yo colt and let's say CQ is, oh, 6th --- would you truly rather own that colt as opposed to the Graded winner CQ? Right now, today? Just curious.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Wonderful.

Answer me this.

If you owned a horse today -- right now -- ranked a bit higher in Todd's barn than CQ... say the #4 2 yo colt and let's say CQ is, oh, 6th --- would you truly rather own that colt as opposed to the Graded winner CQ? Right now, today? Just curious.

It depends on what you want to win. Most of his big owners like a Tabor are playing to win the derby. I would take Cot's two year old over CQ in a second. He will win the Hopeful unless Scat Daddy is as good as they say. CQ will not win the Hopeful, might not even be in it.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

It depends on what you want to win. Most of his big owners like a Tabor are playing to win the derby. I would take Cot's two year old over CQ in a second. He will win the Hopeful unless Scat Daddy is as good as they say. CQ will not win the Hopeful, might not even be in it.

A bird in hand is worth.....

I'd go the other way, but, good luck! That's why they let us wager on these things.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

A bird in hand is worth.....

I'd go the other way, but, good luck! That's why they let us wager on these things.

The bird in the hand is the horse with a 99 beyer with little effort in his only race, not the one that won a 2yr old stakes race and is playing around in the low 80's with his beyers. The Dogwood horse is significantly more talented at this point than CQ. The fact that people are calling CQ great is comical.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

The bird in the hand is the horse with a 99 beyer with little effort in his only race, not the one that won a 2yr old stakes race and is playing around in the low 80's with his beyers. The Dogwood horse is significantly more talented at this point than CQ. The fact that people are calling CQ great is comical.

We'll see what happens. I'm never overimpressed by big maiden wins where talent just overwhelms in runaway style. Never. I am also as likely to bet against a 99 debut-beyer second out horse as I am to pass the race. It's interesting, but horses that debut so high beyer-wise in free-running fashion often have a hard time running back to their number. So, beware. On the other hand, CQ did do some running yesterday where he had to make something happen and he showed some athleticism doing it. Great colt? Who knows? Very nice performance though.