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06-15-2007, 05:47 PM
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I will not bash Bush. I will not bash Bush. I will not bash Bush. (100X) Do you really think there remains any credibility with the UN, especially with regards to Powell's comments on UN 1440? Perhaps as much as the complicit Congress that has yet to act on the mandate that gave them control. Plan??? ROTFLMAO!!!! Which one? Surge? Illegal immigration? No Child Left Behind? Military Commissions? FISA? DoJ? need more? Ain't NO evil!!! Shultz (Hogan's Heros), "I see nothing." 
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06-15-2007, 05:57 PM
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The UN hasn't had strength or honor or power for a very long time. I'm saying that if Mighty Congress has any ideas ....now would be a good time to do something about Darfur. The Presidents' failures have been catalogued previously.
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06-15-2007, 06:09 PM
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I will not bring up the President's failures. That seems to be what the Dems are waiting for the voters to see before the Nov 08 elections. The shame of it all is that so many people will die in the meanwhile. The Repubs will run on "illegal immigrants" and "creationism". The Dems will run on "anti-repub issues". Corporate PAC's with hedge their bets soas to win either way. Darfur? Honestly, how many votes is that one gonna getcha? Shame and sad...but that's the way it is. Good night and good luck!
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06-15-2007, 06:24 PM
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I know..it sucks!
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06-21-2007, 06:25 PM
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Here's Desmond Tutu putting pressure on the EU. His words make sense, but time is of the essence. http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0621/p09s01-coop.htm
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06-21-2007, 09:44 PM
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06-22-2007, 01:32 PM
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We should use all diplomatic efforts to stop the killing of civilians. But this is really a UN issue. This situation, however impossible to end, should be tended to by the UN and African Union. We need to stay out of direct involvement, principally because it is a no win situation that will need to be monitored perhaps forever. There are so many problems in the Sudan that can not be solved by anyone, like the fact the land there can't support enugh food to feed the people even under the best of times. This notion that China can solve the problem is illinformed. Any diplomatic attempt to put China in the middle of this mess is only to deflect attention from the issue itself and other western countries inablility or desire to get directly involved. Oil is the only resource that the Sudan has that is worth anything. But to think that the 3 warring sides will put down their weapons and sign a lasting accord if China pulls the plug is fools gold. These groups have signed so many treaties and cease fires over the years, pretty much none of them effective. The country has been at civil war for most of its years in existence and probably will for years to come. There is no real solution to the problem and though it is tragic, placing blame on the US or China is wrong.
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06-22-2007, 04:40 PM
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In my post #13 I said that the UN has been ineffective previously. As far as China, they have oil interests and it doesn't look to me like they'll jeopardize their energy sources. I really don't see the USA doing much militarily as we're already spread very thin. Perhaps diplomatically with EU support. I really don't know how this will all shake out, except that many will continue to die. Cannon Shell raises some interesting points, and many that I agree with, especially on the problem of the region's ability to supply food for the populace, even in "good" times. Like Somerfrost, I also wish that something effective could be done. At this point, I don't see what "it" is. Tragic is a word that comes to mind.
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