Circular Quay

[blackthroatedwind]

I just did a cursory glance at the times run at Churchill today in 6F races...

Let's start by saying Circular Quay ran 6F in 1:09.96

In the 5th race a Dale Romans 2YO firster ran 1:10.07

in the 6th race a 4YO 15K claimer, who's previous Beyer figure was 58 and had run in the low 70s early in his career ran 1:10.26

The filly 2YO stake was run in 1:10.50 and the winner, Richwomen, had a troubled trip and had previously run a Beyer of 82.

Circular Quay had a ground saving trip and beat a second time starter who had run a 65 in his debut. Yes, I understand 2YOs can, and do, improve rapidly early in their careers, but in looking at this hard data I have NO idea what people are getting so excited about.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just did a cursory glance at the times run at Churchill today in 6F races...

Let's start by saying Circular Quay ran 6F in 1:09.96

In the 5th race a Dale Romans 2YO firster ran 1:10.07

in the 6th race a 4YO 15K claimer, who's previous Beyer figure was 58 and had run in the low 70s early in his career ran 1:10.26

The filly 2YO stake was run in 1:10.50 and the winner, Richwomen, had a troubled trip and had previously run a Beyer of 82.

Circular Quay had a ground saving trip and beat a second time starter who had run a 65 in his debut. Yes, I understand 2YOs can, and do, improve rapidly early in their careers, but in looking at this hard data I have NO idea what people are getting so excited about.

For me, it was the way he did it. I couldn't find this horse with International GPS at the 1/8th pole, then all of a sudden he burst up the rail and got there. I don't remember the last 2-year-old I saw close like that.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

For me, it was the way he did it. I couldn't find this horse with International GPS at the 1/8th pole, then all of a sudden he burst up the rail and got there. I don't remember the last 2-year-old I saw close like that.

I would say Play with Fire and Scipion are two Saratoga maiden breakers from the last couple years that come to mind.

I understand that 2YO winners that close show an added dimension that often signifies above average ability but I just don't know what is so special about this horse's performance. And, yes, I do think it can be hard to rally inside horses. However, this horse had a clear path, never had to alter course, and while I am not saying he didn't run OK, I don't see what was even close to spectacular ( or even particularly special ) about today's win.

Quay was impressive today but I think the most impressive performance of the race was the 1 horse Chace City. Not saying that Chace is better than Quay, but watch the replay of the race and keep your eye on the 1. He broke to the left, jumped a rail, ran all over the place and still ran ok.

Now to Quay, he looked very good today. I like to see a horse move up the rail so easily like he did. But keep in mind, the horses were moving pretty slow the last furlong. The horse I think is going to be one of those who looks good against 2 year olds but once everyone matures and catches up to him then he will be left behind. I do want to see the horse go longer, but I think he will be a very very good two year but a so so 3 year old.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I just did a cursory glance at the times run at Churchill today in 6F races...

Let's start by saying Circular Quay ran 6F in 1:09.96

In the 5th race a Dale Romans 2YO firster ran 1:10.07

in the 6th race a 4YO 15K claimer, who's previous Beyer figure was 58 and had run in the low 70s early in his career ran 1:10.26

The filly 2YO stake was run in 1:10.50 and the winner, Richwomen, had a troubled trip and had previously run a Beyer of 82.

Circular Quay had a ground saving trip and beat a second time starter who had run a 65 in his debut. Yes, I understand 2YOs can, and do, improve rapidly early in their careers, but in looking at this hard data I have NO idea what people are getting so excited about.

The only intelligent thing written on this thread. I love "the greatest 2yr old in 10 years" comment. Guy needs to watch more races I guess.