North Korea

[Downthestretch55]

Bold B,
Did you read the articles you cited?
The first one states this:

"Pakistan also benefited from the trade in weaponry. The missiles-for-nukes trade gave Pakistan an operational means to deliver its atomic bombs.

Pakistan has since successfully test-fired and deployed its own version of the No Dong missile, called the Ghauri. The North Korean-designed missile has a range of nearly 900 miles and can cover virtually all of India, Pakistan's rival in Southwest Asia.

The ultimate irony here is that the North Korean No Dong and Tae Po Dong missiles are based on technology given to Pyongyang by China. In 1994, the Wall Street Journal revealed that Chinese-made CSS-2 missile technology had found its way into North Korean hands."

Last time I looked in my history book, Clinton never was the President of Pakistan nor China. In my recent memory, GW Bush has been the only US president to visit Pakistan.

Regarding former president Carter, I really don't see a problem with his attempt to find a peaceful outcome 14 years ago. Yes, 14 years ago.
Now I'm certain that you'll go to your rightwing sites and find other "facts" to connect current events to their "real root causes". I'm sure there's a connect with Woodrow Wilson at one of them, if you look hard enough.
Or, was it F D Roosevelt that created these events?

[Downthestretch55]

Bold B,
I've read all three of the articles you cited.
Now, read one that I put up:

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0708-21.htm

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Bold B,
I've read all three of the articles you cited.
Now, read one that I put up:

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0708-21.htm

I managed to struggle through it ... and there's really no "there" there.

No U.S. president is going to publicly reveal what our actual military or intelligence capabilites are. The writer of this article ... and the reporters at that press conference ... certainly don't know what they are.

The leftists scoffed at President Reagan ... The Destroyer of the Beloved Soviet Union ... when he first proposed a missle defense system. Now it turns out that such a system is exactly what we need in this age of rogue tinpots with potential nuclear and long-range missle capabilites.

Whether the system is currently effective or not ... and none of us civilians knows that ... it can surely be made effective by good old American know-how and ingenuity.

Would you prefer that we didn't have a missile defense system?

And please tell us what you got from this article ... to me there was not a blessed thing there.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Bold B,
Did you read the articles you cited?
The first one states this:

"Pakistan also benefited from the trade in weaponry. The missiles-for-nukes trade gave Pakistan an operational means to deliver its atomic bombs.

Pakistan has since successfully test-fired and deployed its own version of the No Dong missile, called the Ghauri. The North Korean-designed missile has a range of nearly 900 miles and can cover virtually all of India, Pakistan's rival in Southwest Asia.

The ultimate irony here is that the North Korean No Dong and Tae Po Dong missiles are based on technology given to Pyongyang by China. In 1994, the Wall Street Journal revealed that Chinese-made CSS-2 missile technology had found its way into North Korean hands."

Last time I looked in my history book, Clinton never was the President of Pakistan nor China. In my recent memory, GW Bush has been the only US president to visit Pakistan.

Regarding former president Carter, I really don't see a problem with his attempt to find a peaceful outcome 14 years ago. Yes, 14 years ago.
Now I'm certain that you'll go to your rightwing sites and find other "facts" to connect current events to their "real root causes". I'm sure there's a connect with Woodrow Wilson at one of them, if you look hard enough.
Or, was it F D Roosevelt that created these events?

You're mixing your apples and your oranges.

Clinton didn't give away missile technology to North Korea ... he gave away nuclear technology to them.

The missile technology was given away to China ... in return for campaign contributions. You remember all those Chinese arms dealers who practically moved into the White House ... don't you? And the Chicoms passed it along to the Paks and North Koreans.

That's pretty clear now ... isn't it?

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Regarding former president Carter, I really don't see a problem with his attempt to find a peaceful outcome 14 years ago. Yes, 14 years ago.

Jimmuh was a boob 14 years ago ... 14 days ago ... and 14 minutes ago.

Everyone wants to "find a peaceful outcome" ... but Jimmuh stinks at it. Please don't waste your time trying to defend this utter embarrassment.

Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Must be fate. I just ran accross this post while skiming the thread.

Jimmy Carter was NOT an "utter embarassment". He WAS the most antisemetic, incompetent and DANGEROUS man that ever inhabited the White House.

His wife, sister and the rest of the gang were about 3 to 4 steps away from opening up the famous "relocation camps" of the 30's and 40's in Europe.

His brother was a true intellectual genious as his mother, who was a card carrying member of the KKK.

Yeah ... all of that too

And you left out Amy ... a "nucular" expert and political confidant when she was only nine years old.

But Billy was OK ... anyone who relieves himself by peeing off the roof of the White House ... can't be all that bad.

That was the least embarrassing thing this family ever did.