Racing boost???

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

All that is well and good but it would not hurt to be bringing a few more new "customers" into the game....and racing may have been bigger in the 30's and 40's when the milkman did deliver the milk by horsey

Dave
Outside of the few big events of the year and special meets like Saratoga and Del Mar, no one is going to see the horses. They are going to bet on them. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but if you are a fan and don't bet, you are of little value to the industry. We dont have tickets sales or merchandising or TV contracts as a source of revenue. We only have betting handle as our sole revenue source.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Dave
Outside of the few big events of the year and special meets like Saratoga and Del Mar, no one is going to see the horses. They are going to bet on them. I'm sorry if this sounds harsh but if you are a fan and don't bet, you are of little value to the industry. We dont have tickets sales or merchandising or TV contracts as a source of revenue. We only have betting handle as our sole revenue source.

I'm sure that your perspective is more relavent and informed than mine...and I'm serious when I say that...I just think that one way to get more people involved in the wagering aspect of the game is to start by getting more people interested in the game in general...my thoughts are that turning $2 bettors into $20 bettors is something to work on after you have gotten them interested in the first place....granted baseball, nascar, football, ect ect are not dependent upon wagering...in those sports the fans are spectators... in horseracing the fans are both spectators and participants...the more fans there are the more participants (ie people wagering) there will be....I'm trying to say that I think that people will become more involved in the wagering after they have been exposed to the game as a spectator...I'll shut up now and leave the thinking to the more informed.

[letswastemoney]

Make the Breeder's Cup a prime time event.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I'm sure that your perspective is more relavent and informed than mine...and I'm serious when I say that...I just think that one way to get more people involved in the wagering aspect of the game is to start by getting more people interested in the game in general...my thoughts are that turning $2 bettors into $20 bettors is something to work on after you have gotten them interested in the first place....granted baseball, nascar, football, ect ect are not dependent upon wagering...in those sports the fans are spectators... in horseracing the fans are both spectators and participants...the more fans there are the more participants (ie people wagering) there will be....I'll shut up now and leave the thinking to the more informed.

The main problem is that people are lazy. It takes time to dope out all those pick 3's 4's 6's and so on. There is so much information to compute. As a beginner that information seems like it is in another language. Even simple bets could seem difficult. As opposed to knowing that the starting QB for the jets is out and they should lose by 30. The majority of the people on this site enjoy handicapping the races. If there is a way to simplify all the information for the real beginners, so they really understand why they should bet the closer because of all the speed in the race. Then maybe they could catch the fever and see how interesting and exciting the sport is. If they understand then maybe they will bet more based off their own opinions. Until then they will be betting two dollars on there favorite numbers, names and whoever the newspaper picks.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The main problem is that people are lazy. It takes time to dope out all those pick 3's 4's 6's and so on. There is so much information to compute. As a beginner that information seems like it is in another language. Even simple bets could seem difficult. As opposed to knowing that the starting QB for the jets is out and they should lose by 30. The majority of the people on this site enjoy handicapping the races. If there is a way to simplify all the information for the real beginners, so they really understand why they should bet the closer because of all the speed in the race. Then maybe they could catch the fever and see how interesting and exciting the sport is. If they understand then maybe they will bet more based off their own opinions. Until then they will be betting two dollars on there favorite numbers, names and whoever the newspaper picks.

We are sort of saying the same thing....you are not gonna get very much new blood interested enough to put the effort into learning how to handicapp without getting them interested in the game in general. I bet that the majority of the people on here started off as small bettors and spectators...catching the fever so to speak probably did not start off without some interest in the spectator aspect of the game...

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I bet that the majority of the people on here started off as small bettors and spectators...catching the fever so to speak probably did not start off without some interest in the spectator aspect of the game...

I would think that most people here probably became interested as kids. I remember my old man taking me to the track when I was a kid. He gave me $2 dollars a race. As I got older, I fell in love with the sport more and more. Now I watch racing all the time whether I am betting them or not. But for a first timer, going to the track and looking at the program can be a confusing moment. Without someone showing them what to look for, they might be missing out on a very exciting day.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

...I fell in love with the sport more and more. Now I watch racing all the time whether I am betting them or not....

You are a spectator and a participating bettor...it is the combination of the two that makes horseracing so great...but when your father first brought you to the track you were less of a bettor and perhaps more of a spectator...my Grandmother use to bring me to Saratoga for breakfast during the morning works...I was a spectator before I was a wager making participant.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

You are a spectator and a participating bettor...it is the combination of the two that makes horseracing so great...but when your father first brought you to the track you were less of a bettor and perhaps more of a spectator...my Grandmother use to bring to Saratoga for breakfast during the morning works...I was a spectator before I was a wager making participant.

I'm still mostly a spectator.

I'm in it for the horses.