Finally, JUSTICE:

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Thats what 15 year old girls do

Not mine. Yours? More importantly, my son at 17 would never have done that. 15 year old girls, nearly universally, are not capable of consent.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Not mine. Yours? More importantly, my son at 17 would never have done that. 15 year old girls, nearly universally, are not capable of consent.

Well, I did those things at 16, my former brother-in-law was arrested in Florida at 17 for having sex with a girl on stage during a ZZ Top concert...not sure if those things are more meaningful than your son's purity...I suspect neither enter into this argument. I think you are wrong about 15 year old girls...many kids have sex much younger, this boy admits having sex at 13...should the girl have gone to jail for ten years if she happened to be 16? Laws to protect children from sexual preditors are absolutely necessary but the guy who drafted the original law (since repealed by the way) said it was never his intent to persecute teens.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Well, I did those things at 16, my former brother-in-law was arrested in Florida at 17 for having sex with a girl on stage during a ZZ Top concert...not sure if those things are more meaningful than your son's purity...I suspect neither enter into this argument. I think you are wrong about 15 year old girls...many kids have sex much younger, this boy admits having sex at 13...should the girl have gone to jail for ten years if she happened to be 16? Laws to protect children from sexual preditors are absolutely necessary but the guy who drafted the original law (since repealed by the way) said it was never his intent to persecute teens.

If a 17 year old has sex with a 15 year old girl in front of a dozen other people, he deserves to get prosecuted. And I'm far from as naive as you seem to suggest. There is a way to be a responsible person and a 17 year old having public sex with a 15 year old girl doesn't fit.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

If a 17 year old has sex with a 15 year old girl in front of a dozen other people, he deserves to get prosecuted. And I'm far from as naive as you seem to suggest. There is a way to be a responsible person and a 17 year old having public sex with a 15 year old girl doesn't fit.

My god, the boy was 17, there is no way to be sure that he was any more "mature" than the 15yo girl...2 years!!?? This young lady has been outspoken, along with her mother, that she was quite sexually experienced. We need laws to protect children, not persecute them! She admits that she instigated the encounter...to me, this entire thing is absurd.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

My god, the boy was 17, there is no way to be sure that he was any more "mature" than the 15yo girl...2 years!!?? This young lady has been outspoken, along with her mother, that she was quite sexually experienced. We need laws to protect children, not persecute them! She admits that she instigated the encounter...to me, this entire thing is absurd.

Actually, it's absurd to think that 15 yo girls are as capable as 17 yo boys of making these kind of judgements. What would you want to do...? ... Have laws subject to a "MAturity IQ Test?" Maybe you think it's ok for a 17 yo to decide that having public sex with a 15 yo girl is an ok thing. I do not.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Actually, it's absurd to think that 15 yo girls are as capable as 17 yo boys of making these kind of judgements. What would you want to do...? ... Have laws subject to a "MAturity IQ Test?" Maybe you think it's ok for a 17 yo to decide that having public sex with a 15 yo girl is an ok thing. I do not.

Unfortunately with the law, you have to rely on set standards such as a specific age...what should happen is that the intent of the law should be considered along with the letter of same. If a 40yo man was involved here, it would be a different story but there is no way to judge the maturity of the two kids involved here...BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH KIDS. I'll go out a a limb and say this young lady knew exactly what she was doing and as she said, enjoyed doing it. He was acting like most 17 year old guys...this was an encounter between two kids who both wanted it...no way the law should be involved and to call this kid a sexual predator and sentence him to 10 years without parole is insane! Where was the harm? Who was the Victim? Two years later and the girl still denies being a victim...she's 17 now so I guess by your standards she's magically evolved to a place where she would know?

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Unfortunately with the law, you have to rely on set standards such as a specific age...what should happen is that the intent of the law should be considered along with the letter of same. If a 40yo man was involved here, it would be a different story but there is no way to judge the maturity of the two kids involved here...BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH KIDS. I'll go out a a limb and say this young lady knew exactly what she was doing and as she said, enjoyed doing it. He was acting like most 17 year old guys...this was an encounter between two kids who both wanted it...no way the law should be involved and to call this kid a sexual predator and sentence him to 10 years without parole is insane! Where was the harm? Who was the Victim? Two years later and the girl still denies being a victim...she's 17 now so I guess by your standards she's magically evolved to a place where she would know?

Sorry, I won't take the bait. I'll end by saying that if you think there is no difference between a 15 yo girl and a 17 yo boy, then you are out on a pretty lonely limb.