Ruffian Movie is on

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slewpy

why would it cost more to put the shank on the halter the right way? why would it cost more to walk the horse the way they really get walked? and just another small doesnt really matter sort of thing...in the very 1st scene of the movie a racing form was shown laying on a table with the PPs opened to a certain page, the horse that was on the PPs shown was take me out,,,he was born in 1988,,,it is just a pet peeve of mine, i realize it was a low budget movie but.....for some reason as i watch i pick it apart in my mind.....how did ya like when they showed ruffians gallops and breezes suposedly taking place in the mornings at belmont park? she was the only horse on the entire track, when in reality the race track is like grand central station in the morning, when the track is open for training thier are like 100 horses out there from the time it opens till it closes each morning. but my favorite all time blunder in a horse racing movie was in phar lap,,he is regarded as the best race horse in the world.....the groom and his girlfriend take him on a picnic and while they are eating they turn him loose and let him run through the woods,,,wonder if pletcher will let the groom take rags to riches to the park today and let her loose to run freely like she is in nature?
its only a movie and like i said its just my pet peeve.

you remind me of .....ME. it's why i don't watch many movies--always seem to know what's going to happen, and the incorrect details slay me. i don't enjoy them.
gimme a good book any day!

Originally Posted by Danzig

you remind me of .....ME. it's why i don't watch many movies--always seem to know what's going to happen, and the incorrect details slay me. i don't enjoy them.
gimme a good book any day!

some of it was painfully blatant, the trainer is leading ruffian into her stall he is walking about 3 feet in front of her with no chain over her nose and he is walking on the wrong side of the horse, and the horse that was used in that scene was not a horse in any kind of training much less race training, the horse was about 14 hands with a big old belly and was walking behind him with the head way down and the trainer wasnt even looking at the horse, which in real life is about as dangerous a thing that you could do,,,the other thing that i noticed before each race she was suppossed to run the trainer ponied her into the paddock, go to the paddock at any track and they arent leading the horse into the paddock with a pony. again this is just me,,i thought seabscuit was one of the worst movies ive ever seen about equal with those japaneze movies where they speak english

[Danzig]

i was in the minority about seabiscuit. i thought they took a very good book, and turned it into typical hollywood garbage. the filming was good, the race scenes, but the actual writing, and the whole good vs evil crap...and then turning war admiral into some huge black monster of a horse, that was laughable.

[GenuineRisk]

You and I can be in the minority together about "Seabiscuit," Danzig. I loved the book and disliked the movie (and I really tried to like it). It's not the inaccuracies for me (I'm still watching the sucky "The Tudors," somehow) so much as the g*dd*mned narration. I hate narration in movies (with a few exceptions so don't y'all start sending me examples of excellent movies using narration because yes, I know there are some). In my opinion, film is a visual medium and if you can't tell the story purely through the pictures and the action then you're not telling it well.

As for "Ruffian"- I thought it was all right for what it was, but the story was weak. It's a story that doesn't have an inherent dramatic arc (whatever else one thinks about Ruffian, a story about a perfect filly who breaks down in her last race and is destroyed doesn't really have a dramatic arc from a storytelling point of view, while Seabiscuit's, for comparison, had more ups and downs than a rollercoaster, which is good for drama) All of the characters were essentially at the same place at the end of the film as they were in the beginning (the only way we knew it had permanently affected Nack's love affair with the track was through... yes, the g*dd*mn narration) and no one else was any different at the end. So, someone unfamiliar with Ruffian is left saying, "So what? Why bother to tell the story?"

I think I would tell my non-racing friends that the first two-thirds are pretty slow and the last third is incredibly sad.

[Stall Mucker]

I thought the movie was OK. More, I thought Bill Nack played to big a part and I don't remember him crossing the track before the race was over.
That aside, I was at Saratoga to see her and all I can report is that I never saw such a STUNNING Filly. Glad to be there. I dream for the day to see another.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

You and I can be in the minority together about "Seabiscuit," Danzig. I loved the book and disliked the movie (and I really tried to like it). It's not the inaccuracies for me (I'm still watching the sucky "The Tudors," somehow) so much as the g*dd*mned narration. I hate narration in movies (with a few exceptions so don't y'all start sending me examples of excellent movies using narration because yes, I know there are some). In my opinion, film is a visual medium and if you can't tell the story purely through the pictures and the action then you're not telling it well.

As for "Ruffian"- I thought it was all right for what it was, but the story was weak. It's a story that doesn't have an inherent dramatic arc (whatever else one thinks about Ruffian, a story about a perfect filly who breaks down in her last race and is destroyed doesn't really have a dramatic arc from a storytelling point of view, while Seabiscuit's, for comparison, had more ups and downs than a rollercoaster, which is good for drama) All of the characters were essentially at the same place at the end of the film as they were in the beginning (the only way we knew it had permanently affected Nack's love affair with the track was through... yes, the g*dd*mn narration) and no one else was any different at the end. So, someone unfamiliar with Ruffian is left saying, "So what? Why bother to tell the story?"

I think I would tell my non-racing friends that the first two-thirds are pretty slow and the last third is incredibly sad.

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[quote=Danzig]i was in the minority about seabiscuit. i thought they took a very good book, and turned it into typical hollywood garbage. the filming was good, the race scenes, but the actual writing, and the whole good vs evil crap...and then turning war admiral into some huge black monster of a horse, that was laughable.[/QUOT bet on vaca city flyer next out at hollywood