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Old 06-09-2007, 08:03 PM
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question about all of this...... if you have a horse that goes through the jockey situation that HS did after Rags to Riches entered do you have reservations....I guess what I'm asking is once you take Pino off, then replace with Gomez, and then Gomez wants off because Rags is now entered, are there any concerns about that? I don't know, that whole thing would just make me uneasy....
I think he was probably riding to instructions....I'm sure he would have rather won the race but it is a valid point that you want your jockey not thinking that he is not on the horse he thinks is best if they had a choice.
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Old 06-09-2007, 08:06 PM
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I think he was probably riding to instructions....I'm sure he would have rather won the race but it is a valid point that you want your jockey not thinking that he is not on the horse he thinks is best if they had a choice.
that's what I'm saying......especially with the pending sale.....I just think that horse was put in bad spots all over the place...
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:02 PM
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Hard Spun was never going to be able to go the mile and a half.....End of story.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:06 PM
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I just find it interesting how everyone piles on guys like Johnny McKee (Lawyer Ron) and Mario Pino (Hard Spun) when they go too fast or too early on big-time horses, but Gomez gets a pass because there was "nothing he could do."
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:10 PM
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I am with you Joe. While I didn't play Wait a While (I played Take the Ribbon) that ride was moranic. Lets let a gritty horse go 50 and try and catch. Who gives a **** if your horse isn't a speed horse, if they go 50, he should have been right next to her, not 1.5 back.

Hard Spun, I agree with everyone else, not getting 12....Dream Rush, I just don't know. I think alot of it might have to do with the training job, and while I am no expert, I have seen guys try to dull speed in the morning when stretching out, and it didn't seem like DR speed was dulled at all.
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:19 PM
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So you were okay with Bejarano's choke hold on Take The Ribbon? Because she has some tactical speed. Or Leparoux's on Mauralakana?
You know, I just don't know, i was on tilt and was just firing but all I really remember was Wait A while throwing her head like she was having a fit......
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:11 PM
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My Daddy always said, I have never seen a jockey win a race on his own, but I sure have seen them lose plenty.
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Old 06-11-2007, 07:15 PM
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My Daddy always said, I have never seen a jockey win a race on his own, but I sure have seen them lose plenty.
I don't know, I thought Ramon pretty much won the 10th on his own on Saturday. That was a downright glorious ride.
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