Paris if a free woman again...

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I'm thinking if you're in jail for the first time there is a big difference between 5 and 20 days. I don't like that the sentence got changed for a bogus reason like a rash. I'm just guessing but I would bet that she is not the first to get a rash in that jail but is most likely the first to have her sentence modified because of it.
Whether or not the sentence was correct she should have had to serve it. just because you feel that there are other more severe injustices doesn't make this one ok. with that type of thinking you will end up excusing all kinds of things.
she has already demonstrated that she doesn't get it.

I'm simply saying that this is a small fish in a big (ocean-sized) pond. I worked 10 years in a prison and I can assure you that the staff are very very happy she's gone...not because of her but because of the media. Yes, almost all facilities have a hospital section but there are security issues and...frankly, I doubt a rash would merit placement there. Very few folks serve their entire sentence today...simply not enough room. I'd much rather see Paris sitting in her mansion wearing her ankle bracelet than Joe Sixpack who gets loaded and beats his wife and kids half to death every night back on the street. In a perfect world, EVERYONE would be treated the same but that's not what we have...as I said in an earlier post, I get a lot more worked up when Hurricane Carter sits and rots while cold-blooded killers like William Zanzinger walk away laughing!

[Danzig]

if two wrongs don't make a right, i don't see how using another instance of unfair/special treatment somehow excuses this instance.

if the judge had no intention of paris contributing to jail overcrowding, then i don't see why she was sentenced, if said sentence was never going to be served. community service in this instance (and in many others) would have been the right punishment.

if the jail and the staff can't handle having a 'celebrity' then it's a crying shame, since that pretty much means no one with any kind of name need every worry about being jailed. after all, it might be difficult. i find that ridiculous.
now it's not a rash, it was a possible nervous breakdown.

gimme a break--had paris actually had to serve the sentence, it might have gone a long way towards maturing her-since nothing in her life to date has done so.

all are created equal, but some are more equal than others. how true that still seems to be.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

if two wrongs don't make a right, i don't see how using another instance of unfair/special treatment somehow excuses this instance.

if the judge had no intention of paris contributing to jail overcrowding, then i don't see why she was sentenced, if said sentence was never going to be served. community service in this instance (and in many others) would have been the right punishment.

if the jail and the staff can't handle having a 'celebrity' then it's a crying shame, since that pretty much means no one with any kind of name need every worry about being jailed. after all, it might be difficult. i find that ridiculous.
now it's not a rash, it was a possible nervous breakdown.

gimme a break--had paris actually had to serve the sentence, it might have gone a long way towards maturing her-since nothing in her life to date has done so.

all are created equal, but some are more equal than others. how true that still seems to be.

Nobody has tried to excuse this incident, I'm merely pointing out that there are far bigger miscarriages of justice to get angry about yet folks focus on something like this...makes me wonder if it's about justice or something else. Of course the correctional staff CAN handle Paris or any other inmate, my point is that they are quite happy to lose the headache as they are the ones most effected by the media circus. I don't know if you've ever been inside a prison but when you walk through those metal gates and they slam shut behind you for the first time...well, I've seen grown men break down and cry. Five days or twenty days...being there, the realization that you are no longer free but your very life and all aspects of same are suddenly controlled by strangers is the point...some learn and some don't but anything she can learn in 20 days, she can learn in 5! It amuses me that people talk about "teaching her a lesson"...prisons aren't designed to teach, they punish...they should focus more on education, therapy and skill training but they don't. The punishment is the loss of freedom, if you learn by the experience...that's you not the system making the change. We confuse vengeance with justice, and somehow it makes us feel better when someone that we perceive as "having it easy" falls from grace...frankly, that says more about us and our misconceptualized concepts of "justice" than anything else.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

I'm simply saying that this is a small fish in a big (ocean-sized) pond. I worked 10 years in a prison and I can assure you that the staff are very very happy she's gone...not because of her but because of the media. Yes, almost all facilities have a hospital section but there are security issues and...frankly, I doubt a rash would merit placement there. Very few folks serve their entire sentence today...simply not enough room. I'd much rather see Paris sitting in her mansion wearing her ankle bracelet than Joe Sixpack who gets loaded and beats his wife and kids half to death every night back on the street. In a perfect world, EVERYONE would be treated the same but that's not what we have...as I said in an earlier post, I get a lot more worked up when Hurricane Carter sits and rots while cold-blooded killers like William Zanzinger walk away laughing!

the issue isn't finding the solution that makes the prison staff happy.
she skated lightly and its not fair. Also the choice isn't either/or, either this guy you refer to that beats his wife and kids half to death every night, OR Paris Hilton. There is room for both I'm sure. I just think its a bad example if when a celebrity is given time that we have to consider the media and their mental health etc.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

the issue isn't finding the solution that makes the prison staff happy.
she skated lightly and its not fair. Also the choice isn't either/or, either this guy you refer to that beats his wife and kids half to death every night, OR Paris Hilton. There is room for both I'm sure. I just think its a bad example if when a celebrity is given time that we have to consider the media and their mental health etc.

Quit putting words in my mouth, I never said the object is making prison staff's job easier, just that the media circus makes their jobs 100x harder! There is no harder job around than correctional officer...they are fully capable of handling any situation and aren't asking for any consideration...that doesn't change the fact that this freak show is making their job harder! When you work in a prison you are required to consider EVERY inmate's mental health as well as physical safety..."care, custody and control"! Inmates get shortened sentences every day for a variety of reasons. Lots of folks here doing a lot of talking with zero knowledge of the field...