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Old 06-05-2007, 10:32 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.
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Old 06-05-2007, 10:34 AM
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Greg Fox gave J.V. the OK to ride Rags to Riches instead of Slew's Tizzy.

Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:12 PM
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Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.


Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:16 PM
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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.
Think of it this way, Tiger Woods has sucked lately too.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:44 PM
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Think of it this way, Tiger Woods has sucked lately too.

yeah...he has only won 9 of his last 16 starts. I wish I sucked that bad.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:48 PM
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yeah...he has only won 9 of his last 16 starts. I wish I sucked that bad.
What have you done for me lately, not so good. Yup, he is a good one overall.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:53 PM
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What have you done for me lately, not so good. Yup, he is a good one overall.

damn...LOL...guy loses two tournaments in a row and he is chopped liver this year.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:19 PM
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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.

Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:32 PM
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Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
me too, I don't care what the numbers say, he is not quite the same now for whatever reason.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:35 PM
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Perhaps you should watch racing on a day to day basis before posting a bunch of numbers. Everybody paying attention knows the deal.
Well, #1 Sir.....I have a job, but I do watch replays from Belmont on most nights. #2. I don't have a job in the summer so I'm at Saratoga where I've seen him do nothing but win...and not just on Pletcher's horses.

It's funny how when many people on here want people to back up their points with facts and then they do......well then suddenly the facts Lie?
Really? Wow? He did all of that in 6 months, but he sucks lately?
I suppose you say the same about any jockey whose had a rough couple of weeks?
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:42 PM
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Well, #1 Sir.....I have a job, but I do watch replays from Belmont on most nights. #2. I don't have a job in the summer so I'm at Saratoga where I've seen him do nothing but win...and not just on Pletcher's horses.

It's funny how when many people on here want people to back up their points with facts and then they do......well then suddenly the facts Lie?
Really? Wow? He did all of that in 6 months, but he sucks lately?
I suppose you say the same about any jockey whose had a rough couple of weeks?

So let me get this straight, you don't follow the game because you have a job, therefore it's OK to argue my points without a true understanding of the situation?

When did I talk about Saratoga? I am talking about his riding this year....and particularly recently.

The " facts " are that people who are paying careful attention to the game, and particularly Johnny's riding, are in agreement that it has been sub-par ( especially for him ). One of the posters agreeing with me recently hit two five figure Pick-6s. I can't speak for ArlJim, who also agreed that Johnny has not been riding well, but I'm having a pretty good year at the windows. I believe I recently saw a post of yours claiming you were doing poorly in 2007. Perhaps you might want to take into account who stands on more solid ground in this discussion.

What, out of curiosity is his ROI this year? How about his ROI at Belmont?
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:52 PM
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So let me get this straight, you don't follow the game because you have a job, therefore it's OK to argue my points without a true understanding of the situation?

When did I talk about Saratoga? I am talking about his riding this year....and particularly recently.

The " facts " are that people who are paying careful attention to the game, and particularly Johnny's riding, are in agreement that it has been sub-par ( especially for him ). One of the posters agreeing with me recently hit two five figure Pick-6s. I can't speak for ArlJim, who also agreed that Johnny has not been riding well, but I'm having a pretty good year at the windows. I believe I recently saw a post of yours claiming you were doing poorly in 2007. Perhaps you might want to take into account who stands on more solid ground in this discussion.
What, out of curiosity is his ROI this year? How about his ROI at Belmont?
Oh, Come on BTW, can you start making some sense. You are going to play the "FPSOXFAN is a lowly degenerate gambler because he hasn't hit a Pick-6
Card"????? I thought you were better than that. Andy, you are better than that. I'm just trying to stick up for a guy, whose done nothing but win on horses. He's had some tough rides, but c'mon, let the facts stick for themselves and let's stay away from this Hierarchy of Posters argument you are trying to make. It's quite juvenile.

Even though I don't know a freaking thing about racing I would take Johnny V. over any of the top 5 jockeys any day.
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Old 06-05-2007, 01:54 PM
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What, out of curiosity is his ROI this year? How about his ROI at Belmont?
This is what I was curious about, too, half way through this discussion!

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Old 06-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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This is a huge opportunity for the sport to market itself.

BATTLE OF THE SEXES
TOP MALE VS TOP FEMALE HORSE

racing is lame in terms of using mass media. They will only get about 10-15% of potential from this situation. The worst thing is that these guys think thier problems are from lack of slots.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:38 PM
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Sounds like they had an agreement beforehand. Frankly, the way Johnny has been riding it won't matter anyway.


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It's honestly amazing how poorly Johnny has ridden lately. It's like he doesn't care anymore. He was never as great a rider as some made him out to be, but he was pretty damn good, and lately he looks like the second coming of Mike Smith. It seems like if he isn't riding a cadillac for Pletcher he just " goes where they aint. "

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Really?? Through June 4th

Mounts: 453 W- 103 P-71 S-58

Earnings- 4th place $6,247,817

I guess your right....that's some bad riding.

apples and oranges
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:52 PM
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Me thinks it has been too long since you have had any Brazilian Beef.
Yuck...
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:51 PM
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What is everyone arguing for? She has no chance. The stop has been executed.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:53 PM
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What is everyone arguing for? She has no chance. The stop has been executed.
http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...37&postcount=1
Uh oh!

I can't see her winning, but I do think she'll hit the board.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:57 PM
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Well, he has a point or two that make sense. What is Brazilian Beef?

There is a point to the apples side of the discussion and there is a point to the oranges side of the discussion...they are just different points...but what do I know... pox fan has decided I'm a crackhead and by his own reference he's a degenerate gambler..

Best we not get into the Brazilian Beef discussion.

Where the hell is Buffy when ya need her...shouldn't someone be reminded to "be nice"

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Old 06-05-2007, 04:05 PM
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I was just thinking of how long it has been since a filly won the Belmont. A few notable items that have happened since 1905:

Warren Harding elected president.

Fruit roll-ups invented.

Wal-Mart, McDonalds, and Bojangles.

Kev relates with a woman (allegedly).



That's quite a list.
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