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Old 06-04-2007, 03:54 PM
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LOL Buffy... and Slew's Tizzy has a much better shot? Come on...
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:56 PM
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LOL Buffy... and Slew's Tizzy has a much better shot? Come on...

Yes. He is better rested with four weeks off since his last race. I may be wrong and I will admit it if he doesn't run well, but right now I am thinking he is going to run a big race. He is ready to take on the big boys, whether or not he can handle them is what I am anxiously awaiting.
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Old 06-04-2007, 03:58 PM
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Under the assumption that Rags isn't going...it's either Hard Spun or Curlin. None of the other "contenders" on the list have proven they can beat these two.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:00 PM
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Under the assumption that Rags isn't going...it's either Hard Spun or Curlin. None of the other "contenders" on the list have proven they can beat these two.
Because I don't think some of the other "contenders" have faced them.

Why do you say Rags has a shot? She hasn't faced them before? Has she even faced boys before?
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Why do you say Rags has a shot?
Pedigree says so.

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She hasn't faced them before? Has she even faced boys before?
No, but once again, her pedigree says so and talent wise, she's got just as much there. (IMO.)
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:05 PM
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Because I don't think some of the other "contenders" have faced them.

Why do you say Rags has a shot? She hasn't faced them before? Has she even faced boys before?
She's shown more ability than any of the other contenders. I think she could easily run top 3, even have a shot at winning. She's improved off of every race.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:08 PM
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I am liking

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Old 06-04-2007, 04:24 PM
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I am liking

WildCrazyGuy right now!! Hopefully 10/1??
To quote btw.....where is his fast race?
I think he will be overbet because he came wide at CD and looked like he was gaining a ton of ground, when in fact he simply passed a bunch of tired horses. That race disguises the fact that in both the La Derby, and the Fl Derby he made up no ground whatsoever despite the fact that they went a half in :46.2 in front of him in both races. I don't think he has much of a chance. He doesn't have a great 12f pedigree and doesn't seem to have much of anything going for him really.
The filly seems like the most likely winner to me at this point, but again, without knowing the exact composition of the field, it is difficult to say for sure.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:09 PM
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She's shown more ability than any of the other contenders. I think she could easily run top 3, even have a shot at winning. She's improved off of every race.

I liked her in the Oaks, but I can't remember what her PPs looked like. So I won't comment on that as my brain is fried from the heat today. I just don't think she has a shot at winning. Hitting the board? Maybe.

Like I said these are just my original thoughts on this race. Once it shapes up I will more than likely change my opinions. I am fickle that way.

Although, Tizzy is probably going to be my pick.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:15 PM
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hard spun is bred for 12f...of course his running style may or may not be conducive to the distance, but i'd put his chances up there ahead of much of the field.

the top three in the derby finished in the top three in the preakness. since one of them isn't going saturday, let's go with the fourth in the derby....
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:03 PM
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Yes. He is better rested with four weeks off since his last race. I may be wrong and I will admit it if he doesn't run well, but right now I am thinking he is going to run a big race. He is ready to take on the big boys, whether or not he can handle them is what I am anxiously awaiting.
I don't like him at a mile and a half. This is no 'normal' race...
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I don't like him at a mile and a half. This is no 'normal' race...

You don't think a Tiznow colt can get a mile and a half? Shame on you! Hee hee. Just teasing.

His mama is a great granddaughter of a triple crown winner ya know.
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The early DRF PPs are up. Rags to Riches is in there if you want to check her out. http://www.drf.com/tc/belmont/2007/pps/pps.html
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You don't think a Tiznow colt can get a mile and a half? Shame on you! Hee hee. Just teasing.

His mama is a great granddaughter of a triple crown winner ya know.
I do know and actually really like his pedigree because of the presence of Crozier in the 5th generation, BUT don't like him at a mile and a half.
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Distance will be only be problem for Curlin, Digger, CQ(if he goes) and maybe Time Squared


The rest of them should have no problem getting the distance at all
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Distance will be only be problem for Curlin, Digger, CQ(if he goes) and maybe Time Squared


The rest of them should have no problem getting the distance at all
None of them will have a problem getting the distance... it's just a matter of how long it will take them to hit the finish line.
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:23 PM
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I read Tberg was looking to run in the 6f race on the undercard.


Maybe Jaime loses her mind again and we see him try to get 1 1/2 miles
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Distance will be only be problem for Curlin, Digger, CQ(if he goes) and maybe Time Squared


The rest of them should have no problem getting the distance at all
Why do you think that distance will be a problem for Time Squared? By FuPeg and out of an AP Indy mare seems good to me.
Now, running fast will certainly be a problem for Time Squared (because he is a slow horse) but the distance shouldn't be.
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