ARISTIDES: Fabulous Strike 'comes out'..

SentToStud · #1 06-01-2007, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

There were some smoke and mirrors trip wise in those three WVA wins---all soft trips, against moderate company----however, his figures are stone cold legit.

He figures to get his trip here---so we should find out if he's just a freak at MNR and only a good horse elsewhere...or if he improved and developed since his loss as the 2/5 favorite to Diabolical four starts back.

We'll see. He's got about a 1 in 5 chance of NOT being 3 wide on the turn. If Off Duty breaks decent or better, he could be 4 wide. He's going to have a hard time passing two graded winners and holding off another graded winner off the trip he's likely to get.

GPK · #2 06-02-2007, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Small field and all, that was a very sharp effort. That horse can flat out fly.

and he looked effortless doing it as well Jay.

The Indomitable DrugS · #3 06-02-2007, 05:07 PM

Missed Churchill Downs track record for six furlongs by just 0.05 seconds.......

XIIPointStables · #4 06-02-2007, 05:09 PM

Impressive indeed!

GPK · #5 06-02-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Missed Churchill Downs track record for six furlongs by just 0.05 seconds.......

Sure seemed to me like if he wanted it, it would have been no problem.

Bobby Fischer · #6 06-02-2007, 05:12 PM

great!

Kasept · #7 06-02-2007, 05:18 PM

that..

was..

impressive..

Did Dominguez even move on him? Horse did it 'upright'.. Wow.

GPK · #8 06-02-2007, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

that..

was..

impressive..

Did Dominguez even move on him? Horse did it 'upright'.. Wow.

wow Byk...that's like a years worth of emoticon's use for you all in one post

wonder where they will point him next?

ArlJim78 · #9 06-02-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

that..

was..

impressive..

Did Dominguez even move on him? Horse did it 'upright'.. Wow.

it's remarkable but thats how he runs with his head up, just gliding along.
He's the Michael Johnson of the horse world with that style.

saucon17 · #10 06-02-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Sure seemed to me like if he wanted it, it would have been no problem.

That Ramon's style to win by just enough and to save some energy for the next race. Hard to believe one of the top sprinters in the country is stabled at Penn National.

GPK · #11 06-02-2007, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17

That Ramon's style to win by just enough and to save some energy for the next race. Hard to believe one of the top sprinters in the country is stabled at Penn National.

Yeah Mike...seemed to me watching FS prick his ears, it looked like he was looking for someone to run with him. It looked like he was just out for a jog the way he was doing it so easy.

Athletics005 · #12 06-02-2007, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by saucon17

That Ramon's style to win by just enough and to save some energy for the next race. Hard to believe one of the top sprinters in the country is stabled at Penn National.

And the other best sprinter is based at Golden Gate Fields. It would not be a shock to see the two top sprinters hook up in the Smile. I know that's where Smokey is headed, and we know Gilchrist likes the event as hes been well represented the last three years. It looked like Smokey was tons the best in this division, and then suddenly this horse strikes into contention. Amazing race, but there was no foes like Smokey in that race.

cmorioles · #13 06-02-2007, 05:09 PM

It is pretty rare I would call a horse an overlay at 4 to 5, but this is one of those times.

How soon do you think it will be until we see a horse with such gigantic figures, earned multiple times, go off at that price?

blackthroatedwind · #14 06-02-2007, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

It is pretty rare I would call a horse an overlay at 4 to 5, but this is one of those times.

How soon do you think it will be until we see a horse with such gigantic figures, earned multiple times, go off at that price?

I was thinking the same thing.

cmorioles · #15 06-02-2007, 08:44 PM

I would guess around 112. I only said a bit off his previous 120s.

philcski · #16 06-02-2007, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

I would guess around 112. I only said a bit off his previous 120s.

I was dumbfounded that they let a horse that fast get away with a first quarter of 22 2/5, which obviously affects the final time a tick or two, but to be realistic with the track playing as fast as it was today to earn a 120 he would have had to broken the track record by over a half a second.

cmorioles · #17 06-02-2007, 08:54 PM

Since speed figures take the track into account, his previous 120s say smashing the track record was within his realm.

As you say, the slow opening 1/4, and that is very slow for Churchill, probably contributed to the lower time more than anything else.

philcski · #18 06-02-2007, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles

Since speed figures take the track into account, his previous 120s say smashing the track record was within his realm.

As you say, the slow opening 1/4, and that is very slow for Churchill, probably contributed to the lower time more than anything else.

I know the "if it looks like he's doing it easily he isn't going to run faster if pressured" adage but all things considered, he might have been able to. That was an absolute waltz to go 1:07 3/5.

Speaking of track records, I was at Monmouth today and the horse that ran behind Unbridled Sidney in the turf sprint the day before the BC last year crushed the track record at 5.5F on turf, 1:00.81.

cmorioles · #19 06-02-2007, 09:02 PM

They haven't been running 5.5f on the turf at Mth very long at all. Mid meet last year maybe?

golfer · #20 06-03-2007, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I was dumbfounded that they let a horse that fast get away with a first quarter of 22 2/5, which obviously affects the final time a tick or two, but to be realistic with the track playing as fast as it was today to earn a 120 he would have had to broken the track record by over a half a second.

I think the slow first quarter is what allowed Cougar Cat to hang in for 2nd money.