Va Derby

[blackthroatedwind]

Well, Tagg knows much better than me.

Not that I am a big believer in Beyer figs on the grass ( or any figs on the grass for that matter ) but he did get a 102 in Virginia. That's pretty good and barely puts him behind these supposed monster older horses running.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well, Tagg knows much better than me.

Not that I am a big believer in Beyer figs on the grass ( or any figs on the grass for that matter ) but he did get a 102 in Virginia. That's pretty good and barely puts him behind these supposed monster older horses running.

Beyers on the turf are useless. Honestly I am not sure why, but I have been told this repeatedly by people. A few guys hate beyers all together. I like them because they are easy to figure out, but I am not a guy who bets real money except 2-3x a year.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Beyers on the turf are useless. Honestly I am not sure why, but I have been told this repeatedly by people. A few guys hate beyers all together. I like them because they are easy to figure out, but I am not a guy who bets real money except 2-3x a year.

The basic problem with speed figures in turf races is that the final times are, irrelevent is a simplistic word, maybe simplisticly misleading. The pace is a major determinent of the final time and it is often only the final 5/16 to 1/4 mile where real running is done. It is a totally different animal than dirt racing where final time is of much greater importance.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Beyers on the turf are useless. Honestly I am not sure why, but I have been told this repeatedly by people. A few guys hate beyers all together. I like them because they are easy to figure out, but I am not a guy who bets real money except 2-3x a year.

The only thing I like about Beyers (on either surface) is betting against them...I love when the public picks up on a false favorite due to an exaggerated Beyer fig....happens all the time and creates great value for people who have a better system...I have found Rags to be the most sophisticated speed figs, but who can afford $40 a day?...Not me.