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05-30-2007, 10:31 PM
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I agree. I just find it funny that "hourseofcourse" bragged about Lebron having the Cavs at over .500 after two years with the team. Yet Bird had the Celtics winning the whole damn NBA championship in his 2nd year. No comparison.... 
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05-30-2007, 11:18 PM
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05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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As much as I hated him. Celtics were nothing without Bird. A case can be made for Bird helping make Parrish, McHale great players. I dont think one can say the reverse. Bird made the whole thing work.
How far would the Spurs go without Duncan? The Spurs would have ZERO championships. Would Parker and Ginobili ever have made an Allstar team... I doubt it. David Robinson knows he would probably not have made the top 50 alltime list without a championship. And that championship in 1999, required a great rookie. Same with Bird. McHale championships without Bird? I dont think so.
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05-30-2007, 11:36 PM
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05-30-2007, 11:41 PM
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05-31-2007, 12:40 AM
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Again. This is from a person who absolutley hated Bird... From the depths of my soul. He was a trash talker, dirty (at the appropriate times), but so unique. Bird showed that a forward could control a game. Anytime the Celtics had to have something done the ball was in his hands. He was the Man on that team. Its so obvious to me. Bird was a revolution as was Magic. They changed the game. They played their positions in such a diff. manner than they had ever been played before. So even though they may not have been Michael, they had as much impact on the way the game is played. Magic a 6' 9" Point??????? are you kidding. He took his idol, George Gervin, to a completely diff. level. (Gervin being one of the first tall guards that had a huge impact on the old ways of thinking... you cant be a guard, you are too tall). And his complete unselfishness and leadership made the Lakers. Then the guy plays CENTER when Kareem is hurt and scores forty against the sixers. GOOD LORD! Bird. Controlled the flow of a game at a position that was not supposed to handle the ball that much. His movement without the ball, his passing, his superior intuition, made for a type of forward I doubt we see again. For God's sake he would lead the Celtics in rebounding and assists if he was not shooting well. He found some way to impact every important game.
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05-31-2007, 01:24 PM
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05-30-2007, 11:29 PM
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rookie 21.3 47% 10 4.5 143 53 263 year 2 21.2 47% 10.7 5.5 161 63 289 year 3 22.9 50% 10.9 5.8 143 66 254 year 4 23.6 50% 11 5.8 148 71 240 LeBron rookie 20.9 41% 5.5 5.9 130 58 273 year 2 27.2 47% 7.4 7.2 177 52 262 year 3 31.4 48% 7.1 6.6 123 66 260 year 4 27.3 48% 7.1 7.0 125 55 250 seems like a pretty close comparison when you consider Bird was 3 years older at every stage...
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05-31-2007, 05:34 PM
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The Main Course...the chosen or frozen entree?!
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05-31-2007, 06:13 PM
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Sorry if that came across the wrong way. I think Lebron has more than a nice game...he is one of the few that I can sit down and actually watched play for more than 5 minutes.
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