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Old 05-29-2007, 01:42 PM
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Swoon's Son b.c. 1953
(The Doge - Swoon)
Sound and solid, winner under all conditions, he was U.S. Champion Handicap Horse of 1957 and Champion Sprinter in both 1957 and 1958 . Won 30 of his 50 plus races (10 times second) in 4 seasons of racing, major wins included Arlington Futurity, American Derby, Equipoise Mile (twice), Wright Memorial Stakes (twice), Balmoral Turf Handicap. At stud, he got Chris Evert (leading filly of 1974), Swoon's Song (stakes winner and dam of Swingtime, among other stakes winners), and 20 other stakes winners from 330 foals.
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Old 05-29-2007, 01:46 PM
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in doing searching for swoon's son, i found this--is this right?????


To the man on the street, the most important race to win is the Kentucky Derby. Sports writers who don't know which end of the horse has teeth all become experts on the first Saturday in May, just as they become gymnastics experts every 4th years during the Olympics.

To the racing professional, there are more important races. One is the Belmont Stakes, because the 12-furlong distance is a quarter-mile longer than the Derby and requires that much more stamina (which is always a prime selling point in a stallion). Also, far more Belmont winners than Derby winners become divisional champions.
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Old 05-29-2007, 02:12 PM
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The Belmont used to be known as the "Test of a Champion" and was regarded as a stallion making race. This was a long time ago. Now, it's the 12 furlongs of anonymity.

Used to be that a top class horse would be asked to run 12f on dirt several times in his career. Now, unless they go to grass, none of the Belmont runners will ever see 12f again.

as for the inductees, Congrats to all. I'm especially pleased to see Veitch get it.
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Old 05-29-2007, 03:56 PM
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The Belmont used to be known as the "Test of a Champion" and was regarded as a stallion making race. This was a long time ago. Now, it's the 12 furlongs of anonymity.

Used to be that a top class horse would be asked to run 12f on dirt several times in his career. Now, unless they go to grass, none of the Belmont runners will ever see 12f again.

as for the inductees, Congrats to all. I'm especially pleased to see Veitch get it.
Well.....not always. Funny Cide, who ran third in the '03 Belmont, just competed in a 12f dirt race within the last couple of weeks.
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Old 05-29-2007, 04:12 PM
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Well.....not always. Funny Cide, who ran third in the '03 Belmont, just competed in a 12f dirt race within the last couple of weeks.
I think Tiago has a definate future in grass marathons.
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:01 PM
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Old 05-29-2007, 05:09 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Silver Charm will be the first OBS April 2yo sale grad to make the Hall of Fame.

There's been other Derby winners to come from that sale (at least Lil E Tee) and other Dubai World Cup winners from that sale (Roses In May) but, I highly doubt any other Hall of Famers came from out of there.

It's basically Ocala's 3rd string 2yo in training sale....pretty much a big ole fire sale.
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