Mineshaft - am I losing my mind?

Originally Posted by oracle80

Euro its the younger know it all guys who seem to make these arguments. Its a generational thing called what have you done for me lately. And its quite comical. A few posters on here are always calling horses "rats". You know, the kind of rats who have already banked 600g- 1 million bucks. They generally make these statements after one sub par outing. Earlier this year(I have your names, I have your posts) peopel were railing on about Sun King being a "rat". All hes done since then is win the Commonwealth and get beat a head in the Met. Man would I LOVE and DREAM to own 10% of a rat like that. All that cash and a liscense to go to stud now and make some more cash.
The guys who make these statements know NOTHING about horses and the physical problems or form cycles they get into. They think they are cars and the concepts of popped splints, entrapping, quarter cracks, etc. mean nothing to them. All they say is, hes a rat, because the horse lost. The fact that they know nothing about horses themselves is besides the point, they truly feel qualified to judge a horse a rat.
The new generation of horsefan seems to have teh following criteria for greatness: 1) You must never lose(especially a race that they bet)
2) You must never have an off day or sub par day(which basically means you must never bleed, entrap, jam up a foot, grab a quarter, pop a splint, buck shins, or suffer a fracture)
3) You must run your races in track record or near track record times.
4) You must never duck who they "say" is the main competition in their division. You must always face the very best you can find even if it makes no sense to do so due to time contraints betwen races or traveling to a strange place.

How maniacal is that?

According to that citeria, Azeri wouldnt have been a rat. Man, I miss that horse. She was just something that made me speechless. But to the young people she lost to Mayo On The Side--lost in the Classic so she is a rat--ha ha.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

According to that citeria, Azeri wouldnt have been a rat. Man, I miss that horse. She was just something that made me speechless. But to the young people she lost to Mayo On The Side--lost in the Classic so she is a rat--ha ha.

Yep, and Congaree was a rat because he lost to Scorpion. OH!! And Ghostzappper was a rat also because he lost the Kings Bishop. Hmm, I guess the only horse in the last 80 years or so who wasnt a rat was Personal Ensign. Secretariat definitely was a rat because he lost to Onion. Well, I think you get the point.

Who was that horse about 7-10 years ago that came up from South America and won like 11 races in a row and was totally hyped up and ended up flopping?

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

According to that citeria, Azeri wouldnt have been a rat. Man, I miss that horse. She was just something that made me speechless. But to the young people she lost to Mayo On The Side--lost in the Classic so she is a rat--ha ha.

I miss Azeri too. It broke my heart the way she tried to go with the boys in the 2004 Classic. She was trying with everything she had and just couldn't do it. Even though she finished 5th, she still beat some very, very good horses. You couldn't have had a stronger Classic field than you did that year. It was was one for the ages. I thought Azeri's performance in the BCC was outstanding even though she didn't win. It showed just how much courage, heart, and try she had in her. In any other year, she would have definitely finished in the money.

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I miss Azeri too. It broke my heart the way she tried to go with the boys in the 2004 Classic. She was trying with everything she had and just couldn't do it. Even though she finished 5th, she still beat some very, very good horses. You couldn't have had a stronger Classic field than you did that year. It was was one for the ages. I thought Azeri's performance in the BCC was outstanding even though she didn't win. It showed just how much courage, heart, and try she had in her. In any other year, she would have definitely finished in the money.

I couldnt agree more. Put her in the Classic in 2005 and she is right there with Flower Alley and St Liam.

[Seattleallstar]

these wonderful animals arent machines, they have off days. I mean hell even Secretariat lost. You can just see greatness and talent in horses no matter who they beat, I just believed Mineshaft wasnt the "greatest" horse. It would of just been nice to see him run in the BCC.