Va Derby

Originally Posted by mp3

Showing up is not showing up.Just read it on drf.com. Can anyone handle Kip Deville in this spot?

Also Oracle, Spoke to the Ieah crew and they tell me Wonder Lady is going in the CCoaks and they are expecting a field of 4. Hard not to get g1 placed there

Where did you read it on drf.com? Please provide the link. They are still undecided last I heard. He was considering working him on this Sunday but they had not made up their mind on the race. As for the Secretariat, I am not sure that is correct either. They still have not ruled out the Travers last I heard.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Where did you read it on drf.com? Please provide the link. They are still undecided last I heard. He was considering working him on this Sunday but they had not made up their mind on the race. As for the Secretariat, I am not sure that is correct either. They still have not ruled out the Travers last I heard.

Ha Ha. They want no part of Kip Deville with a real jockey, so much for that.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Ha Ha. They want no part of Kip Deville with a real jockey, so much for that.

Kip Deville will not hit the board. You are delusional if you think KD is in the same league as Showing Up. WHERE IS THIS ARTICLE ON THE DRF? I hope for this guys sake he isn't just starting rumors. As of Tuesday morning I know for a fact they had not made a decision, although I also know the Travers was still on the table. I am not calling the guy a liar but if he is going to talk about the story he should provide a link. I sent an e-mail so I will know the real story later today.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Kip Deville will not hit the board. You are delusional if you think KD is in the same league as Showing Up. WHERE IS THIS ARTICLE ON THE DRF? I hope for this guys sake he isn't just starting rumors. As of Tuesday morning I know for a fact they had not made a decision, although I also know the Travers was still on the table. I am not calling the guy a liar but if he is going to talk about the story he should provide a link. I sent an e-mail so I will know the real story later today.

Why is it that anything to do with Lael causes you to fly off the handle?

CHILL!

Originally Posted by boldruler

Kip Deville will not hit the board. You are delusional if you think KD is in the same league as Showing Up. WHERE IS THIS ARTICLE ON THE DRF? I hope for this guys sake he isn't just starting rumors. As of Tuesday morning I know for a fact they had not made a decision, although I also know the Travers was still on the table. I am not calling the guy a liar but if he is going to talk about the story he should provide a link. I sent an e-mail so I will know the real story later today.

Make sure you aplogize to MP3 when you get that email back. The difference between 3rd hand info and 1st hand info could never be clearer than it is now.
For months you have explained to us with total certainty that the horse would run in the VA Derby and the Travers. It now appears that he will do neither. Its why I consider anything other than 1st hand info to be phonier than a three dollar bill.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Make sure you aplogize to MP3 when you get that email back. The difference between 3rd hand info and 1st hand info could never be clearer than it is now.
For months you have explained to us with total certainty that the horse would run in the VA Derby and the Travers. It now appears that he will do neither. Its why I consider anything other than 1st hand info to be phonier than a three dollar bill.

The VA Derby and the Travers was definitely the original plan. Tagg is arguably the most impossible trainer to figure out in the world because he is very conservative. The horse just made him $60K, which is good money for him, so if Tagg wants more space between races who am I to question the guy. No knock on you Oracle, but anyone who thinks KD is in the league with Showing Up probably should stay out of the horse buying business. Not only is SU a much better horse, but he cost hundreds of thousands less than KD cost. Tagg got Showing Up for 60K.

Originally Posted by boldruler

The VA Derby and the Travers was definitely the original plan. Tagg is arguably the most impossible trainer to figure out in the world because he is very conservative. The horse just made him $60K, which is good money for him, so if Tagg wants more space between races who am I to question the guy. No knock on you Oracle, but anyone who thinks KD is in the league with Showing Up probably should stay out of the horse buying business. Not only is SU a much better horse, but he cost hundreds of thousands less than KD cost. Tagg got Showing Up for 60K.

Oh I see. Would you like me to pull up some of his other buys as yearlings the last few years and see what they add up to? How about that expensive Thunder Gulch who broke her maiden for 50 and then got killed in the allowance race? How about Nice Nellie? Please spare me. Buying yearlings is buying a dream. What IEAh does is try and find proven candidates and then pay a premium due to the fact that you won't buy so many 6 figure disasters searching for a good one.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Oh I see. Would you like me to pull up some of his other buys as yearlings the last few years and see what they add up to? How about that expensive Thunder Gulch who broke her maiden for 50 and then got killed in the allowance race? How about Nice Nellie? Please spare me. Buying yearlings is buying a dream. What IEAh does is try and find proven candidates and then pay a premium due to the fact that you won't buy so many 6 figure disasters searching for a good one.

Look Mr. Know It All, get your facts right. Showing Up was bought by Tagg as a 2yr old at a Maryland sale, not a yearling. Nice Nelly is a filly and they run a breeding operation so you can figure out why they bought one of the last Seattle Slew fillies. Nice Nelly thankfully is doing well too. I think IEAH is excellent too, but KD is not Showing Up. Showing Up has earned close to $1M in 5 starts, won a grade II on dirt, and finished 6th in the Kentucky Derby. All that and he destroyed KD. KD will not get the distance this weekend and off his last race he will bounce.