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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Off topic, but I'm too lazy to start another thread...

Why is Flashy Bull working on the turf? Do they do that randomly?

Trying the Virginia Derby perhaps?...He doesn't have a grass pedigree but Kairan may think that the grass 3yos are softer than the dirt 3yos at this point (especially after he lost to Minister's Bid and Racketeer in an ALLOWANCE)....I'm not close to that camp so I don't know but someone in here should be....Byk would probably know....

Hey, for $1 million in the Va. Derby they may figure to take a shot...What the hell?...Nothing to really lose because this horse probably can't win on the dirt in most of the 3yo stakes on the East coast because the crop is so good....interesting, but the fact is that he'd be 20-1 in the Va. Derby if it turns up as contentious as the Colonial Turf Cup.....

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Trying the Virginia Derby perhaps?...He doesn't have a grass pedigree but Kairan may think that the grass 3yos are softer than the dirt 3yos at this point (especially after he lost to Minister's Bid and Racketeer in an ALLOWANCE)....I'm not close to that camp so I don't know but someone in here should be....Byk would probably know....

Hey, for $1 million in the Va. Derby they may figure to take a shot...What the hell?...Nothing to really lose because this horse probably can't win on the dirt in most of the 3yo stakes on the East coast because the crop is so good....interesting, but the fact is that he'd be 20-1 in the Va. Derby if it turns up as contentious as the Colonial Turf Cup.....

That would be interesting...

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Trying the Virginia Derby perhaps?...He doesn't have a grass pedigree but Kairan may think that the grass 3yos are softer than the dirt 3yos at this point (especially after he lost to Minister's Bid and Racketeer in an ALLOWANCE)....I'm not close to that camp so I don't know but someone in here should be....Byk would probably know....

Hey, for $1 million in the Va. Derby they may figure to take a shot...What the hell?...Nothing to really lose because this horse probably can't win on the dirt in most of the 3yo stakes on the East coast because the crop is so good....interesting, but the fact is that he'd be 20-1 in the Va. Derby if it turns up as contentious as the Colonial Turf Cup.....

Another intersting turfer is Steppenwolfer, who just worked 1:00 and change over the Belmont turf. I think this could be a good change for him -closers do well on turf and his sire, Aptitude, has sired some pretty talented turf horses. He may run in the Lexington coming up and I look forward to that. What do you think of this move, Joel?

Originally Posted by Betsy

Another intersting turfer is Steppenwolfer, who just worked 1:00 and change over the Belmont turf. I think this could be a good change for him -closers do well on turf and his sire, Aptitude, has sired some pretty talented turf horses. He may run in the Lexington coming up and I look forward to that. What do you think of this move, Joel?

We were discussing this a few weeks back.....I don't know..It may be a good move...he certainly has the running style for grass and like you mentioned his pedigree is sneaky good for the turf....Aptitudes have been fair on the turf with Rick Violette's Apt. colt winning the Hill Rise nicely, and Stepop. is out of a Wolf Power mare which really assists his chances of taking to the grass....my gut feeling though is that he will just be a grinder on the grass will not a big enough closing burst to be top class as a turf horse....obviously, the longer the better for him....I have never been a huge fan of this horse's true ability so it is hard for me to really see him being a star on any surface, but who knows.......I just think you need a little better push-button ability and quick burst and turn of foot to be an effective turf horse nine times out of ten.....looks like we'll see soon though!