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Old 05-20-2007, 09:08 AM
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I imagine Flying First Class, and perhaps Teufelsberg, will show up as well.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:12 AM
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What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:21 AM
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What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?
Could see him in lesser local Derbies this summer.
Welcome aboard Herkhorse!
I just noticed your a couple miles "up the road" from me. Spent a lot of time at the Herkimer OTB in the late 80's & early 90's when I lived in Fort Plain. Don't care for the new location across from the McDonalds though, the old place was great back in the 80's.
Ever been to the OTB at Mr.McGills up the road in Schulyer? Heather the bartender is real friendly and cute!
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:23 AM
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Could see him in lesser local Derbies this summer.
Welcome aboard Herkhorse!
I just noticed your a couple miles "up the road" from me. Spent a lot of time at the Herkimer OTB in the late 80's & early 90's when I lived in Fort Plain. Don't care for the new location across from the McDonalds though, the old place was great back in the 80's.
Ever been to the OTB at Mr.McGills up the road in Schulyer? Heather the bartender is real friendly and cute!


Easy Hoffy you dog you.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:35 AM
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Easy Hoffy you dog you.
Ever been up there? Timmy & Ole just love her!!!
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:35 AM
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Could see him in lesser local Derbies this summer.
Welcome aboard Herkhorse!
I just noticed your a couple miles "up the road" from me. Spent a lot of time at the Herkimer OTB in the late 80's & early 90's when I lived in Fort Plain. Don't care for the new location across from the McDonalds though, the old place was great back in the 80's.
Ever been to the OTB at Mr.McGills up the road in Schulyer? Heather the bartender is real friendly and cute!
HEY! Whats wrong with the new location? Every time it rains the roof leaks and we move the garbage cans around to catch the water
And yes its definately worth the extra 10 miles to see Heather at McGills!
Thanks for the welcome, I enjoy your posts and calls to ATRAB
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:25 AM
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What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?
Welcome Herk....Hope you enjoy posting here. I'm another of the FP guys on here. Nice folks here. There's one dick that has a problem with Fort Plain guys but other than that...ENJOY!
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:40 AM
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Welcome Herk....Hope you enjoy posting here. I'm another of the FP guys on here. Nice folks here. There's one dick that has a problem with Fort Plain guys but other than that...ENJOY!
I'm not a dick...dick.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:45 PM
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What about Officer Rocket? What happened to him?
we're headed to Ohio. He is showing us some excellent response to his maturing process. He got a 3/4 C-hill work 2 days ago in 1:10:80. We think this race will be a good target.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:00 PM
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we're headed to Ohio. He is showing us some excellent response to his maturing process. He got a 3/4 C-hill work 2 days ago in 1:10:80. We think this race will be a good target.
Thanks Smarty, saw him run in the southwest and thought he ran huge! Good Luck!
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:12 AM
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Something tells me the "top 3" from both the Derby & Preakness...WON'T be going.
They're saving the "test of the champions" for...the lady!
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:33 PM
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I imagine Flying First Class, and perhaps Teufelsberg, will show up as well.
Sadly, you may be right! I am sure DWL watched that race yesterday and somehow managed to convince himself that what FFC really needed was an extra 2.5 furlongs and he would have re-rallied from last to win.
Nobody in their right mind would enter FFC in the Belmont, but (with regards to TC races) Lukas hasn't been in his right mind for years now.....so it may happen.
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:10 PM
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Over the past 35 years, only twice has the Belmont been run without the Derby or the Preakness winner.

2006-Jazil
2000-Commendable

Both times, the winner was a horse that was pretty much non-descript except for winning the Belmont. In fact, for both, the Belmont was/has been their only career stakes win. Both horses had run in the Derby and finished off the board then skipped the Preakness. If this is any indication, the quality of this year's Belmont is going to be really bad.

Question. If u have Rags to Riches, would u rather take on a subpar Belmont field and win that or would u rather wait and take on Street Sense or Curlin in a race like the Haskell or Travers and really prove yourself?
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:00 PM
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Over the past 35 years, only twice has the Belmont been run without the Derby or the Preakness winner.

2006-Jazil
2000-Commendable

Both times, the winner was a horse that was pretty much non-descript except for winning the Belmont. In fact, for both, the Belmont was/has been their only career stakes win. Both horses had run in the Derby and finished off the board then skipped the Preakness. If this is any indication, the quality of this year's Belmont is going to be really bad.

Question. If u have Rags to Riches, would u rather take on a subpar Belmont field and win that or would u rather wait and take on Street Sense or Curlin in a race like the Haskell or Travers and really prove yourself?
i think the winner comes out of the derby
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:35 PM
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bloodstock gamesmanship

The "thing to do" with Rags to Riches is to throw her name around in the triple crown races, but not actually enter her.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:07 PM
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bloodstock gamesmanship

The "thing to do" with Rags to Riches is to throw her name around in the triple crown races, but not actually enter her.
For what purpose?
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:09 PM
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hi everyone, just got home a few minutes ago--we went to lake ouachita for the wknd, so all i know about the preakness so far is how everyone finished. probably will watch later, looks like a missed a good one.

as for hard spun, just saw on bloodhorse that he is being pointed to the belmont.
also saw on there that sightseeing won a close one in the pan, i guess the belmont is on tap for him.
curlin is 'weary'.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:51 PM
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For what purpose?

Its all about hyping the horse. The more hype, the more demand there is for the horse. The stock goes up. This is a Tabor horse.

If they were to actually run her she would prove to be inferior to the top males and possibly set her back from prepping toward the major goals she is pointed towards.
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Old 05-20-2007, 07:22 PM
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I guess I meant that if they wanted to prove just how good she is, prove she's the best 3yo period, it would have to come in one of the later races against the big guns instead of over a second or third rate Belmont field.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:01 PM
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I guess I meant that if they wanted to prove just how good she is, prove she's the best 3yo period, it would have to come in one of the later races against the big guns instead of over a second or third rate Belmont field.
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