Congressman Ron Paul on the VT shootings

[golfer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF3Nt...rtNum%3D52468\
Here is the link to an interview Ron Paul did on CNN with Wolf Blitzer..I have no knowledge of his past voting record, or anything like that. Just watch this video and tell me if what he's saying makes sense or not.
And by the way, I'm not trying to say that he will be or should be the next President, just trying to expose some people to a man who is being intentionally marginalized/ignored by the mainstream media.

[Downthestretch55]

An interesting article:
http://mwcnews.net/content/view/14574/26/

I have watched this guy's voting record for years.
Im telling you he is way out there. Watch the debate where he threw the largest softball I have ever seen and Guilliana ripped that fat pitch down his throat. Made him look like the fool he is. Yes he is very close to an anarchist.
He suggested 9/11 was something that was going to happen because of the immoral reckless behavior of the US. The man is way out there. But he is running for President so he might have some handlers that make him look a wee bit sane.

Nightmare man. I swear I would leave this country if he was elected. NUTS. (The last few statements probably bought him some votes on this board.)

[golfer]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I have watched this guy's voting record for years.
Im telling you he is way out there. Watch the debate where he threw the largest softball I have ever seen and Guilliana ripped that fat pitch down his throat. Made him look like the fool he is. Yes he is very close to an anarchist.
He suggested 9/11 was something that was going to happen because of the immoral reckless behavior of the US. The man is way out there. But he is running for President so he might have some handlers that make him look a wee bit sane.

Nightmare man. I swear I would leave this country if he was elected. NUTS. (The last few statements probably bought him some votes on this board.)

I was going to try to respond to this, but instead I will let this short article do it for me:

Ron Paul, CIA Big, to Rebut Giuliani at Press Confab, May 24
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com


Presidential candidate Ron Paul (R-TX) will be joined by Michael Scheuer, former head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit, to discuss flawed American foreign policy and its implications on terrorism, security and Iraq.

The press conference will be held at 9:30AM EST on Thursday, May 24 in the National Press Club Lisagor Room.

During the "First in South" GOP debate, earlier this month, Dr. Paul stated that 50 years of interventionism in the Middle East is a significant motivating tool for radical Islamists. Dr. Paul's position, though disparaged during the debate, has since received backing from numerous individuals, including others in the GOP, administration officials and - in excerpted reports - from the 9-11 Commission itself.

In the debate, Rudy Giuliani, a presidential candidate and well-known former Republican mayor of New York, called Dr. Paul's position "absurd." Giuliani is commonly characterized as a GOP "front-runner." He is also considered well-versed in foreign policy, given his supervision of the "international city" of New York and his position as its leader during 9/11. However, he stated that he had "never heard such an explanation" as Ron Paul's.

According to a limited-circulation release, Dr. Paul and Mr. Scheuer are expected to explain why Rudy Giuliani is wrong on security and foreign policy and provide documentation about the unintended consequences of interventionism - known to many in the intelligence community (and Dr. Paul as well) as "blowback."

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

To anyone that pays any kind of attention, the only thing Giuliani proved was that he is an idiot or a liar. How can he say that what Paul said was so absurd that he (Rudy) had never heard such a thing before? It is in the 9-11 Commission Report for crying out loud! You mean to tell me, "Rudy's city" was attacked, thousands died, the federal government did an extensive report on the incident and surrounding circumstances, and he did not read the report? Either Rudy is woefully uneducated wrt foreign policy considerations or he is a liar looking to score points with the numb-minded via a few short sound clips. Either way...


I don't think you have to worry about Paul or leaving the country. He hasn't a chance. Though, I somehow doubt you would leave...Alec.

You're wrong. Giuliani is not an idiot or a liar. He is an idiot and a liar.

He will say absolutely anything whether it is truth or lie. He's an idiot for thinking people are stupid enough to buy his bs. If that's not enough his campaign is paying his ex-nurse wife $15,000 a month for helping to write his speeches. That alone makes him an idiot. He's also said he will have his wife attend cabinet meetings. He's an embarrasment.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You're wrong. Giuliani is not an idiot or a liar. He is an idiot and a liar.

He will say absolutely anything whether it is truth or lie. He's an idiot for thinking people are stupid enough to buy his bs. If that's not enough his campaign is paying his ex-nurse wife $15,000 a month for helping to write his speeches. That alone makes him an idiot. He's also said he will have his wife attend cabinet meetings. He's an embarrasment.

Well then you guys need to thank Ron Paul with setting Gulliani up with on of the biggest home runs I have seen in a debate.

Dr. Paul. Oh yes this makes him credible. The Dr. part. Earth to Dr. Paul, the Middle East is important, pulling back into a shell will solve nothing. He is an isolationist. He will tell you he does not want to be in the Middle East militarily, and that sounds great right now. But he does not want a thing to do with the Middle East diplomatically either. Earth to Dr. Paul. The US is not the only country that has a Jones for oil. Sorry folks, the Middle East is very important. Walking away will do nothing to aide the situation. Lebanon is blowing up. Again. Israel is getting ready to strike yet again once their own political situation is worked out. Iran... Paul's plan is not to intervene which in his terms means walk away. This worked really well right after WWI.
Our world is now one, like it or not.
People better wake up. How many of you run your car and house with solar power? We are not there yet.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well then you guys need to thank Ron Paul with setting Gulliani up with on of the biggest home runs I have seen in a debate.

Dr. Paul. Oh yes this makes him credible. The Dr. part. Earth to Dr. Paul, the Middle East is important, pulling back into a shell will solve nothing. He is an isolationist. He will tell you he does not want to be in the Middle East militarily, and that sounds great right now. But he does not want a thing to do with the Middle East diplomatically either. Earth to Dr. Paul. The US is not the only country that has a Jones for oil. Sorry folks, the Middle East is very important. Walking away will do nothing to aide the situation. Lebanon is blowing up. Again. Israel is getting ready to strike yet again once their own political situation is worked out. Iran... Paul's plan is not to intervene which in his terms means walk away. This worked really well right after WWI.
Our world is now one, like it or not.
People better wake up. How many of you run your car and house with solar power? We are not there yet.

Guys like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are important. Their views are very different than the more manstream candidates but they are voices that should be heard.

Would you be happier if all the Republican candidates had the same position on every single issue? Or if during the GOP debates the candidates would all just be arguing what the exact name of the color of the carpet is? That's what you would get.

The people who better wake up are the ones running the Republican party. This is the party whose leadership will go to the wall to protect Alberto F'ing Gonzales while having no room at the table for a guy like Colin Powell.

Don't worry about Ron Paul. He's not going anywhere. But hopefully you didn't buy in on the post debate hatchet job they did on him.

Now Giuliani? If that mofo wins I will leave the country. Maybe I'll go to Texas.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Guys like Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are important. Their views are very different than the more manstream candidates but they are voices that should be heard.

Would you be happier if all the Republican candidates had the same position on every single issue? Or if during the GOP debates the candidates would all just be arguing what the exact name of the color of the carpet is? That's what you would get.

The people who better wake up are the ones running the Republican party. This is the party whose leadership will go to the wall to protect Alberto F'ing Gonzales while having no room at the table for a guy like Colin Powell.

Don't worry about Ron Paul. He's not going anywhere. But hopefully you didn't buy in on the post debate hatchet job they did on him.

Now Giuliani? If that mofo wins I will leave the country. Maybe I'll go to Texas.

Stud: leaving the country....going to Texas....Very Good

[golfer]

Forgetting his "alleged" past foibles, watch this video and tell me where you disagree with ANYTHING he said last night.
I promise you he is the only "politician" to EVER tell the TRUTH about the US's involvement (CIA) with the Shah of Iran, Osama Bin Laden, and Saddam Hussein!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B9KWISuvZWs

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

That is an outright lie.

Prove me wrong. I believe, very strongly based on his past, he is an isolationist. Prove to me he has really changed stances. Lets see the evidence. Im telling you based on what I think of Mr. Surfside. Ive heard and read things from him for quite a while. So educate me on his true reversal.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

It might be more fun to point out more of your lies:

• He wants no government whatsoever.
  
• The armed forces, congress, and judical branch should all be run by private company kind of stuff.
  
• I would leave this country if he was elected.

You deftly left off what I wrote after the first two. And then took off in a diff. direction.

Jews run congress is different than saying the Jewish lobby is a strong one. He has been in Texas for a good while. And he has been quoted a heck of a lot here. His record is clear if you live hear and have followed him. He also thinks blacks are fleet footed. Noted after he was robbed I think. Most younger males are fleet footed. I'll leave this for another thread.

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

and I fully expect some kind of Marxist-like dialectic crap.

Marxist.

Holy ... Im a Marxist. I dont like Ron Paul = Marxist

You have made your point about not being interested in a real discussion. I will assume you are joking like I was about his tendencies towards small government. (Which again you deftly ommitted)

So Jews control congress...?
Thats why we aide Israel?

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

No, I was expecting Marxist dialectic crap.

So I am not a Marxist. I just spout off Marxist crap? I would think that might make me a Marxist.

And Paul's small government, let the private sector solve problems is a generalization I have problems with. The private sector is the best for many things. But horrible for some very important functions in a democratic society.

His apparent problems with Black's and Jews I will not dwell on. He has just said some things on record that I would never even say or think in a casual conversation. I find that a bit scary. I will leave it at that.

And I like this stuff because the man does scare me.

Oh I can be a sarcastic bhatch also. When one has to maintain a pleasant even attitude all work day venting is necessary.

"My son is failing what can we do?"

"Thank you for showing you care about your son 180 days into a 183 day school year. DID YOU GET ANY OF MY GDAMN PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS FOR GODS SAKE? YOU ASK WHAT WE CAN DO NOW? GO NAIL YOUR FOREHEAD TO YOUR KITCHEN FLOOR RIGHT NOW. YOU CALL YOURSELF A PARENT?"

so...

ron paul scares me

[SentToStud]

[quote=Bababooyee]Marxist dialectic crap. And, no, it wouldn't necessarily make you a Marxist. For example, I sometimes use a hammer, but that does not make me a carpenter.


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lol. I have sung "Strangers in the Night" in my underwear but that does not make me a half-naked Frank Sinatra. Or so I have been told.