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justindew · #21 05-17-2007, 10:59 AM

I couldn't come up with a better choice for 3rd. Plus, I can't spend all week dissing Hard Spun and Curlin, and them use them in the tri.

SentToStud · #22 05-17-2007, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by justindew

I couldn't come up with a better choice for 3rd. Plus, I can't spend all week dissing Hard Spun and Curlin, and them use them in the tri.

Your article was a pleasant read. I give you credit for looking deeper into the field to come up with CP West and (for right or wrong) taking a stand against the 2nd and 3rd favorites.

slotdirt · #23 05-17-2007, 11:04 AM

You bet with your pockets, not with your pen. I'm sure lots of us have dissed horses around here then used them when we get to the window.

#24 05-17-2007, 11:06 AM

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While all of these trends are only useful (or total tosses) to the point you are willing to use them, there is some validity to what he said just from a purely statistical view.

I wasn't aware of it until this morning, just how bad it is.

From: http://ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=25389

I dont know why they wouldnt count Forward Pass as another data pt. The bettors were paid for him as a runner up. And there is no way to know that Forward Pass would have won were it not for the drug...

So it's more like 4 data pts. out of 36, hardly a groundswell but not a death sentence either.

justindew · #25 05-17-2007, 11:08 AM

There aren't many chances in the year to bet into huge pools. I like to take a chance and maybe cash a big ticket on those days.

Even I will admit that the odds of both Curlin and Hard Spun missing the tri are not strong. But I think the odds are stronger than most would admit.

The Indomitable DrugS · #26 05-17-2007, 11:09 AM

Pinnacle has posted their odds for the race.

Their linemakers Curlin obsession continues, as they have him at only +352. Once again, you'll get better than that on race-day.

Street Sense is once again being generously offered at +156 (better than 3/2 odds) They had him as high as 6/1 on Oaks day. You probably won't be sniffing 3/2 on him come Preakness day....as he will flirt with even money, and would be odds-on if not for the fact that horses like Mint Slewlip and Xchanger will likely be strongly underlaid by novice money.

Bystander · #27 05-17-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Pinnacle has posted their odds for the race.

Street Sense is once again being generously offered at +156 (better than 3/2 odds) They had him as high as 6/1 on Oaks day.

They've been reading your prolific posts.

tycharles01 · #28 05-17-2007, 11:13 AM

Why do I keep hearing Mint Slewlip more than CP West??

Was his trip in the Withers that bad?? or what

The Indomitable DrugS · #29 05-17-2007, 11:15 AM

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They've been reading your prolific posts.

They are sneaky devils aren't they.

Bystander · #30 05-17-2007, 11:16 AM

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They are sneaky devils aren't they.

I should have said they've been SWAYED by your prolific posts. I hear Nafzger may scratch because of you.

philcski · #31 05-17-2007, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tycharles01

Why do I keep hearing Mint Slewlip more than CP West??

Was his trip in the Withers that bad?? or what

I'll be using CP West underneath, simply because I'm a dumb goo goo for this guy and keep expecting an improvement which hasn't come.
At 20-1 it's worth one more chance.

The Indomitable DrugS · #32 05-17-2007, 11:20 AM

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I should have said they've been SWAYED by your prolific posts. I hear Nafzger may scratch because of you.

He called me up and asked me if he thought the Peter Pan would be a better spot.

When I told him I'd back wheel him in that spot as well....he finally concluded that he indeed made the right decision by entering the Preakness

Bystander · #33 05-17-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He called me up and asked me if he thought the Peter Pan would be a better spot.

When I told him I'd back wheel him in that spot as well....he finally concluded that he indeed made the right decision by entering the Preakness

Phew.

The Indomitable DrugS · #34 05-17-2007, 11:24 AM

Now....it would be pretty difficult to pick against him in the Ohio Derby....but I'm sure I'd find something in that field to beat him with.

Bystander · #35 05-17-2007, 11:33 AM

I'm glad you can still laugh at yourself, Drugs, I was worried. You know what happened to Jack, all work and no play... makes Drugs incredibly dull.

The Indomitable DrugS · #36 05-17-2007, 11:43 AM

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I'm glad you can still laugh at yourself, Drugs, I was worried. You know what happened to Jack, all work and no play... makes Drugs incredibly dull.

No, I'm dead serious....I'd enthusiastically bet against him in the Ohio Derby...I'm just not sure with whom yet.

The one spot on the stake schedule where I'd have a really tough time playing against him is the June 3rd SunRay Park & Casino H, which carries a $40,000 purse and is run at 8 furlongs and restricted to 3-year-olds.

While I doubt any of the local horses on the grounds at SunRay Park are up to the task of beating him at level weights....being that the race is a handicap, I think the double digit shift in weight might be Street Sense's undoing on that day.

Isn't that the race that lol lol lol has been pointing to all along?

Bystander · #37 05-17-2007, 12:12 PM

You're dead to me now, Drugs.

Thunder Gulch · #38 05-17-2007, 03:02 PM

I really like the race Hard Spun ran in the Derby, but I look at him and I see Peace Rules running back in the Preakness. Ugly business.

Scurlogue Champ · #39 05-17-2007, 04:08 PM

Nice job on the article.

Cajungator26 · #40 05-19-2007, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Even if Hard Spun AND Curlin regress though, they're going to have to run with three legs to get to CP West's level. Honestly.

C P West ran very well... flattened out a bit in the stretch, but I can see him turning into a nice horse this summer.

That was a good call by Justin on him...