For The Record

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Who was the private clocker?

I've heard from a more creditable source (CajunGator) in a private discussion, that Chelokee might have a foot bruise.

But hey, we all learn sooner or later that the best handicapping judgements we can make, will always come from information that is already available to us...and not from backside gossip or buzz. That's just the way it is.

This is correct. I've heard it as well from the same reliable source. He would have skipped the Derby whether he had gotten in or not. Matz moved him back to Fair Hill during that time as well. Don't know how much training he missed though.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

This is correct.

Well we can all sleep comfortably tonight.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Well we can all sleep comfortably tonight.

I certainly can cause now I know for sure that there will be at least one horse in the race that won't give up the rail to SS. I mean, this guy is the RAIL SUCKUP (at all cost) POSTER BOY. If only he (and Bold Start) had made the Derby.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

I certainly can cause now I know for sure that there will be at least one horse in the race that won't give up the rail to SS. I mean, this guy is the RAIL SUCKUP (at all cost) POSTER BOY. If only he (and Bold Start) had made the Derby.

Only Larry Melancon could keep Bold Start off the rail in Illinois.

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Only Larry Melancon could keep Bold Start off the rail in Illinois.

only you could hit a couple of 6 fig pick sixes and come here and talk about it..........LOL

[Bobby Fischer]

It was nice that the clockers (i have no idea which clockers, all I did was read each report that I could find ) totally misjudged Hard Spun's final work. Just about everything was just plain wrong from describing his effort to the gallop out and his energy level during and following. I was able to see video of his work for myself and also of his bath and being allowed to get out and eat some grass with Jones. So here was this powerful looking horse sitting on a big effort and all these so-called experts were treating it like their was some NEGATIVE factor at play. So it was a nice edge to have.


Scat Daddy - training in bar shoes... first of all we have all these armchair-vets/clockers sounding off about his bar shoes, when they aren't sure that it is anything new in his training routine. For all they know the guy has done this all year. One clocker actually wrote that Pletcher says he trains in bar shoes and it is nothing new. Or did he? Pays to have put in the work on a horse that was headed to the Derby for some time. Luckily the distance of the race relegated that guessing game to 3rd or 4th on exotic tickets.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

only you could hit a couple of 6 fig pick sixes and come here and talk about it..........LOL

I didn't read about it here....I read about it in a little rag called The New York Times.

[justindew]

I can't believe I forgot Imperialism. He might be the best example. I'm pretty sure Andrew Beyer picked him either on top or near the top, and I remember being certain he would not run a lick.

Lion Heart ran big in the Derby, and was bet hard in the Preakness.

Same with Peace Rules.

"Great" was probably not the best word, but you catch my drift.