Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:30 PM
ARyan's Avatar
ARyan ARyan is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Upstate, NY
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Perhaps I should reevalute what I said I guess.....
Honestly, I think that whole post is well thought out, well backed up, and right on the money.

I couldn't have even said it 50% as well.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:38 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,943
Default

as drugs said, you have to wonder about chelokee after seeing how scat daddy ran in the derby. of course there is every possibility that the distance was just too much for daddy--but certainly there is a question mark or two there.
if chelokee is doing well, what the heck-run him in the preakness. i don't think street sense is unbeatable--he's at 50% lifetime...why not take the shot?
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:46 PM
miraja2's Avatar
miraja2 miraja2 is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,157
Default

DrugS makes some good points, and this colt's sire (although best known as a sprinter) turned in a nice performance in the '93 Preakness.....but come on DrugS....please bring back Brian Billick!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:59 PM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

Spiro T. Agnew is here to stay.

Not only, like Billick, does he honor CJ and his home city of Baltimore....but, compared to our current VP, he is a man of incredible honesty and integrity.

Plus he's greek....and really---the Baltimore-Greek connection cinched it up.

Last edited by The Indomitable DrugS : 05-10-2007 at 11:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-10-2007, 10:59 PM
the_fat_man's Avatar
the_fat_man the_fat_man is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,676
Default

PROFESSIONAL suckup horses always have a chance to win.

Good luck with this one.

We're blessed this year with a 3 year old SUCKUP TROIKA

Chelokee
Bold Start
Cowtown Cat

Sucking up in a race near you.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-11-2007, 09:03 AM
Cajungator26's Avatar
Cajungator26 Cajungator26 is offline
Keeneland
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Hossy's Mom's basement.
Posts: 10,217
Default

This was mentioned to me yesterday and it's kind of a good point...

IF Chelokee was sitting on his best race, they would not even be considering the Barbaro over the Preakness.

With that said, I think he's more likely a go in the Barbaro than the Preakness anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 05-11-2007, 09:07 AM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

I think he's more likely to go in the Preakness....

But, in horse racing, with lowered expectations come lowered results...though that's espeically true in the claiming game.

Chelokee will be a clear-cut 4th choice in the betting in the Preakness, Matz is a fan of going into a race with lots of time between starts, and as much as Matz would love to win the 1st running of the Barbaro Stakes with Prado up, one year after what happened last year....we all know how hard to resist it is running in a Classic, when you're the 4th choice in the betting, and the clear-cut favorite of the "new shooters."
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 05-11-2007, 11:14 AM
zippyneedsawin's Avatar
zippyneedsawin zippyneedsawin is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,064
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
as drugs said, you have to wonder about chelokee after seeing how scat daddy ran in the derby. of course there is every possibility that the distance was just too much for daddy--but certainly there is a question mark or two there.
if chelokee is doing well, what the heck-run him in the preakness. i don't think street sense is unbeatable--he's at 50% lifetime...why not take the shot?

and this year's Preakness is not being run at Churchill Downs last I checked.
__________________
Alcohol, the cause and solution to all of life's problems. -Homer Simpson
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-11-2007, 11:28 AM
Benevolus
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I am not so sure Flying First Class doesn't have a shot. He seems to be coming around pretty nicely.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-11-2007, 11:36 AM
The Indomitable DrugS's Avatar
The Indomitable DrugS The Indomitable DrugS is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,007
Default

I think Flying First Class is probably just a sprinter.

If you look at his form---in his two tries around one-turn, racing at a sprint distance...he had that sensation 107 Beyer (albeit inside-speed bias aided) maiden win. And the dominant front-end win in the Derby Trial Stakes last time out.

In his three attempts around two-turns and routing....he ran like he was hit in the head by the 1/8th pole all three times.

A lot of people thought Bernardini (having never raced around two-turns in his life) was not ready for last year's Preakness---but, he was going to be the 4th choice in the betting, and the "favorite" of all of the newcomers...which is why it was too tempting for his connections to pass.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 05-11-2007, 11:43 AM
Benevolus
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Indomitable
I think Flying First Class is probably just a sprinter.

If you look at his form---in his two tries around one-turn, racing at a sprint distance...he had that sensation 107 Beyer (albeit inside-speed bias aided) maiden win. And the nt front-end win in the Derby Trial Stakes last time out.

In his three attempts around two-turns and routing....he ran like he was hit in the head by the 1/8th pole all three times.

A lot of people thought Bernardini (having never raced around two-turns in his life) was not ready for last year's Preakness---but, he was going to be the 4th choice in the betting, and the "favorite" of all of the newcomers...which is why it was too tempting for his connections to pass.

You are probably right. I plan on sticking with Curlin anyway. He made me money his first three races and I am not going to abandon him because of his derby. I just think he is more talented than Street Sense and I really think Street Sense is a horse for the course at Churchill.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.