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05-08-2007, 08:47 PM
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05-09-2007, 09:02 AM
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When you think of last years Whitney Handicap, you think of the old Chinese Proverb "three smelly tailors can defeat one Zhuge Liang." Perhaps Invasor hasn't yet matched the unparalleled brillance that the warlord stratigist displayed in 3rd century China.... But one smelly jockey and two pretty decent horses weren't quite enough to defeat one Invasor last summer. The premature inside move by Jara..to engage Flower Alley early, combined with eye-balling a Travers winner through 5f's in a stressful midrace battle, combined with having a fresh Sun King ready to mop up the lone survivor of that battle...compounded to give Invasor a legit excuse had he lost...but to his credit, he desperately fought off Sun King. Here's a great picture of them off the turn, eye-ball to eye-ball, both with ears pinned...Flower Alley leaning on him a little, about to finally crack...and have horses like We Can Seek and West Virgina blow past him in the very late stages. Sun King's ready to pounce. 
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05-09-2007, 09:32 AM
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Out of curiosity DrugS, how long are you going to keeping harping on the imaginary bad ride on Flower Alley? While obviously he didn't enjoy the cleverest of trips, he got absolutely drowned in the race, as well as his two subsequent efforts. Clearly it wasn't the trip that did him in. Horses get less than clever rides all the time....do you bet all these horses back even when they don't run a step?
You act as though it was Flower Alley's poorly timed ride in the Whitney that was responsible for his complete disintegration. Considering the subsequent events it was an inconsequential blip on his doomed career.
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05-09-2007, 09:35 AM
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Flower Alley had a perfect ride in the Whitney
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05-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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The " internet " for " I can't defend my position. " Passive aggressive doesn't suit you.
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05-09-2007, 09:44 AM
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The next thing I know...you will be telling me that I thought Street Sense got a horrible ride in the Derby.
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05-09-2007, 09:41 AM
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While the whole point of my post was to drop the name Zhuge Liang....as I had to try and top my Gordon Bitner Hinckley homerun of a few days ago...I think you misunderstood everything I said about the race---and maybe have been saying all-along.
It was Jara who gave the bad ride--when he moved prematurely to engage Flower Alley....the only thing that compromised FA at all, is that he was eye-balling a good horse for a long time, and that led to him quiting badly late. He'd have finished better had Jara ridden the race correctly, though, maybe or maybe not managing a 3rd place finish. While Flower Alley did run two horrible races after that....I still believe he and Invasor were both somewhat compromised by being hooked up for so long.
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05-09-2007, 10:08 AM
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Had FA not been in an excellent early position...does Jara show the bad judgement, and move very early to negate the other joint-favorite from having a very good trip?
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05-09-2007, 10:17 AM
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please use generalizations and non-truths when arguing your side, thank you
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05-09-2007, 02:25 PM
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Before the race, Borel or not, I was expecting Street Sense to win on the outside in the stretch.
The inside is risky you can get stopped. The danger with the outside move is that it requires an earlier commitment and would leave SS with more to do in the lane, but I thought he was good enough. With ground loss and an earlier move it would have been extremely close between the top 2. Borel made a great move in hindsight. 20 questions: What happens if Stormello goes to the lead? How does that change the entire set-up? What if Curlin is follows Sedgefield into the pocket right out of the gate? ...
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