Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 05-07-2007, 10:22 PM
horseofcourse horseofcourse is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Idaho
Posts: 3,163
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillW
The situation in Iraq pretty much mirrors post WWII Germany, 2 to 3 years of insurgency and 10 years to get things stable enough to turn things over to the German people. So it wasn't totally unexpected, or ignored. The insurgency in Iraq will be more successful, and last longer because ...

This is exactly the problem! And the reason we were successful in Germany. We took care of the situation with both halfs



Hussein had proven he was not a paper tiger by his history. He Almost immediately attacked Iran after he took power and as soon he could after he recovered from that went into Kuwait. Through the 90's he showed every indication of continuing that pattern by adapting very well to the increased international scrutiny and building his financial warchest right under the nose of the UN.
Unfortunately sanctions only work with a compassionate gov't, otherwise it just punishes the people and is terribly misguided. The Iraqi people suffered due to the sanctions, but there was no way they were going to put pressure on Hussein to comply with the mandates as a result of those sanctions - he would just kill them. Hussein simply took advantage of the oil for food program to build his war chest and starved his people. The only thing sanctions did was give him an excuse to offer his people for their suffering ("It's the great satan's fault") and buy time.

I vote for "B" above - This discussion can go on for ever, but I need to get back to handicapping - take care,

Bill
I may be wrong here...but wasn't Hussein attacking and fighting Iran with our blessing and support as well as aid??? I'm pretty sure Iran was the ultimate bad guy back in those days. We actively courted and financed a large part of Iraq's Iran adventure back in the day I'm pretty sure.
__________________
The Main Course...the chosen or frozen entree?!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 05-08-2007, 08:24 AM
GenuineRisk's Avatar
GenuineRisk GenuineRisk is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 4,986
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by horseofcourse
I may be wrong here...but wasn't Hussein attacking and fighting Iran with our blessing and support as well as aid??? I'm pretty sure Iran was the ultimate bad guy back in those days. We actively courted and financed a large part of Iraq's Iran adventure back in the day I'm pretty sure.
You're not wrong. And of course, see link in earlier post for our adventures in Iran from the 1950's...
__________________
Gentlemen! We're burning daylight! Riders up! -Bill Murray
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 05-08-2007, 03:02 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by horseofcourse
I may be wrong here...but wasn't Hussein attacking and fighting Iran with our blessing and support as well as aid??? I'm pretty sure Iran was the ultimate bad guy back in those days. We actively courted and financed a large part of Iraq's Iran adventure back in the day I'm pretty sure.
sure 'nuff! back when our foreign policy was based on what russia did ( we invariably chose the other side) and of course the whole 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' line of thought. wwwaaay to go!! my, that worked out SO well.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-10-2007, 03:48 PM
Downthestretch55 Downthestretch55 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stamford, NY
Posts: 4,618
Default

Just to clarify...the military operations by the US in Iraq are not involved in a "war". US military is an occupation force.
As previously stated by our beloved President on the deck of the US carrier, Abraham Lincoln, "Major American combat operations have been successfully completed." Google "mission accomplished".
American forces are NOT involved in "war".
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-10-2007, 04:12 PM
Downthestretch55 Downthestretch55 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Stamford, NY
Posts: 4,618
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Just to clarify...the military operations by the US in Iraq are not involved in a "war". US military is an occupation force.
As previously stated by our beloved President on the deck of the US carrier, Abraham Lincoln, "Major American combat operations have been successfully completed." Google "mission accomplished".
American forces are NOT involved in "war".
Follow up:
The democraticly elected majority of Iraq's parliament have spoken.
Does anyone remember all those purple fingers?
Though this story has been bypassed by the main stream press, the rest of the countries on the planet have access to this story.
So should you:
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/51624/
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.