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Old 05-07-2007, 08:33 AM
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I think it's fair to say that you've gone gaga over Fabulous Strike.
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Old 05-07-2007, 08:51 AM
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I have a fascination with record speed figures...and certainly a fascination with the trainer of Fabulous Strike's miracle working capabilites....

However, I also have had a fascination with Smokey Stover ever since his amazing career debut, and unless they run the race at MNR...I'd give Smokey the edge....
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Old 05-07-2007, 09:52 AM
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I have a fascination with record speed figures...and certainly a fascination with the trainer of Fabulous Strike's miracle working capabilites....

However, I also have had a fascination with Smokey Stover ever since his amazing career debut, and unless they run the race at MNR...I'd give Smokey the edge....
I'm with you on the fascination with speed, and I'm also with you on Smokey Stover. This guy has impressed the hell out of me.

Let me ask you a question, I am of the opinion that Smokey Stover is faster, and a better sprinter than Lost In The Fog. I know I'll catch hell for saying that from the legions of LITF fans. But I don't say this to disparage LITF, I'm just trying to put things in proper perspective. Was just wondering if you had any thoughts on this.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:21 AM
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Both horses had (have in the case of Smokey) a world of talent.

LITF was a lot more polished of a race horse than SS....and he had better natural speed...and that speed is certainly a weapon in sprints.

Smokey has really always been a monster talent...but, he had bad habits out of the gate, often would draw an inside post, and somehow seemed to find himself having one bad trip after another for a string of several races there.

Another SS (Street Sense) has developed a habit of getting one dream trip after another and seeming to be a super lucky horse---Smokey was almost the complete opposite...every race, win or lose, he'd leave you with the impression he was so much the best.

Lately, he's breaking clean, and his bad habits have gone away....and while some people might not want to hear it....I actually think he's got even a little more talent than LITF had....he certainly didn't have all the intangibles, but he's really become a better gate horse lately, and he's the best sprinter in the land when he doesn't get himself in trouble.

I annoyed the hell out of some people by talking him up after he was running races that wouldn't look impressive on paper. I told people on another board that he could win the Breeders Cup Sprint, and was the right bet if he made the race last year---they passed the Breeders Cup for a stake at TuP, which he lost to a nice horse in nice time after making things hard for himself. People had fun with me about that....but since that race, he's been nothing short of awesome.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:46 AM
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Smokey...

I annoyed the hell out of some people by talking him up after he was running races that wouldn't look impressive on paper. I told people on another board that he could win the Breeders Cup Sprint, and was the right bet if he made the race last year---they passed the Breeders Cup for a stake at TuP, which he lost to a nice horse in nice time after making things hard for himself. People had fun with me about that....but since that race, he's been nothing short of awesome.
You must have really cleaned up on Sunshine Millions day. Great handicapping.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:47 AM
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I have a fascination with record speed figures...and certainly a fascination with the trainer of Fabulous Strike's miracle working capabilites....

However, I also have had a fascination with Smokey Stover ever since his amazing career debut, and unless they run the race at MNR...I'd give Smokey the edge....
I've been goo-gooing this guy since the race before the Belmont undercard race when he blasted some crap horses in a fakestake in smashing time. I have a soft spot for bad trainers who get one good one...
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:49 AM
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I've been goo-gooing this guy since the race before the Belmont undercard race when he blasted some crap horses in a fakestake in smashing time. I have a soft spot for bad trainers who get one good one...
You are joking about bad trainer, right? This guy is a god.
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Old 05-07-2007, 10:55 AM
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You are joking about bad trainer, right? This guy is a god.
Let me rephrase with the correct choice of words... "unknown" trainers.
I know he's a god.
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Old 05-07-2007, 11:21 AM
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remember Frankel's horse Euchre who ran like a monster beyer at prarie meadows, anyone remember the sheet #
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