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Old 07-04-2006, 01:05 AM
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It just seems to me that you are being real crucial for no good reason, other than you lost. You're not going to hit them all, nobody does. No one is bailing anyone out, and is TMB that much more of a talent than Songster. I have them 1-1 head to head, so I guess we'll see. I also didn't see baffert being too critical about the ride, he was critical of the situation, and the racing luck. Like everyone else here has said. You seem to be the only one thinking Gomez could have done more. Is it really that far fetched to think Songster would have won regardless? Baffert was obviously telling everyone something when he was telling anyone that would listen that he was unhappy with the 1 hole.

Ain't brain surgery.The guy blew the ride,and people are lickin' nut (as usual.)For every bad ride that has ever been given,there is a guy out there ready to say it wasn't a bad ride.Yes, you are bailing him out.He won with Behaving Badly from the 1 hole,and should have won with Bling from the 1 hole.He was the favorite because he was the best horse(even with this career- ending 1 hole.).Yes,he would easily have beaten Songster with any ride at all.

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Old 07-04-2006, 01:24 AM
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Ain't brain surgery.The guy blew the ride,and people are lickin' nut (as usual.)For every bad ride that has ever been given,there is a guy out there ready to say it wasn't a bad ride.Yes, you are bailing him out.He won with Behaving Badly from the 1 hole,and should have won with Bling from the 1 hole.He was the favorite because he was the best horse(even with this career- ending 1 hole.).Yes,he would easily have beaten Songster with any ride at all.
The 2 situations are completely different, but I guess I'm wrong there too. Let me ask you this, with all of your knowledge, did you ever think that maybe Baffert instructed gomez to sit behind the pacesetter, because of the post, like Behaving Badly did today? It was racing luck, it happens everyday. Sometimes the hole doesn't open when you need it too.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:41 AM
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The 2 situations are completely different, but I guess I'm wrong there too. Let me ask you this, with all of your knowledge, did you ever think that maybe Baffert instructed gomez to sit behind the pacesetter, because of the post, like Behaving Badly did today? It was racing luck, it happens everyday. Sometimes the hole doesn't open when you need it too.

Everything isn't racing luck.I know you want to use that to explain away a bad ride,but the fact is that he gave these 2 jocks the opportunity to ride his horse.If you sit right behind the leader on the rail(and you are the chalk)then it isn't "racing luck" when you quickly get locked in down there.It is what will happen 90% of the time.He didn't stay down there today right? He had no plan on Bling.He rode him like he was 5-1(just sit and get lucky.)Well,on chalk you can't expect to get out of the position he was in.Almost all the mistakes he makes are due to him not anticipating other jocks are going to try to get the chalk in trouble.
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Old 07-04-2006, 01:55 AM
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Everything isn't racing luck.I know you want to use that to explain away a bad ride,but the fact is that he gave these 2 jocks the opportunity to ride his horse.If you sit right behind the leader on the rail(and you are the chalk)then it isn't "racing luck" when you quickly get locked in down there.It is what will happen 90% of the time.He didn't stay down there today right? He had no plan on Bling.He rode him like he was 5-1(just sit and get lucky.)Well,on chalk you can't expect to get out of the position he was in.Almost all the mistakes he makes are due to him not anticipating other jocks are going to try to get the chalk in trouble.
First of all, the 90% of the time is straight crap. What difference does it make if it was chalk or not, if he was on a bomb do you think it would have made a difference? The hole didn't open, and that's that. Do you think Prado or Vega cared what the odds were, they were riding to win like Gomez, and all 3 did. You're stuck on the fact that he was the chalk. I honestly don't think that all of the other jocks are sitting there wondering how to get the chalk in trouble, since the chalk only wins approximately 1/3 of the time. I notice you had no response to the Baffert question. I think baffert told him to sit, and that's why Baffert had no gripes with the ride.
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