Pletcher could have won the Derby . . .

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Bold Reasoning

She should run in the Belmont. She is better than Jazil and her sire is a Belmont winner.

Keep her versus her own sex right now...maybe later in the year
but throwing her to the "wolves" right now wouldn't be right.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Keep her versus her own sex right now...maybe later in the year
but throwing her to the "wolves" right now wouldn't be right.

agreed

I think fillies have to take on the colts early while they are ahead of them. The boys are going to keep improving while the girls are already there.

I didn't see the Oaks so I can't say one way or the other.

[todko]

Hats off to Street Sense. They stuck to a strategy that worked -- mainly because of pinhead (sorry, had to throw in a Beyerism) moves by everyone else. It was clear they were going to run up the rail. They trained up the rail. Should have been obvious.

2:02 is nothing earthshaking. And the final quarter was decent but coming from 19th place nothing earthshaking either. The field pretty much imploded.

The question is now -- can he some back in 2 weeks? And then 3 weeks?

I'll hang with Curlin at Pimlico if we see a new jockey. Street Sense will be the one to beat. He handles the tight Churchill Downs turns well. And the turns at Pimlico are very similar.

Pletcher said he's only running Roxy. Should be a short field.

Would like to see Street Sense on the turf some day. He would run well on the grass.

[ELA]

JMHO, but no, she would not have beaten the colts. Isolating an 1/8th, or looking at the final time myopically, or the Beyer # for that matter doesn't say enough to say she would have beaten the boys. The Beyer, the 1/8th, or the final time -- and a great deal of other things -- does not take into consideration that she would have had to line with 19 boys, break with them, race with them and look many of them right in the eye.

It's easy to see why many would think so, but it's a hypothetical and in this case, I don't think so.

Eric

I coulda won state.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I coulda won state.

LOL.

[randallscott35]

And if you are using Beyers for this, Silverbulletday put up a 107 in the Oaks. When she faced the boys at Belmont she finished 5th at 5-1.