Rags to Riches/Belmont try?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I won't be betting her at such a short price either, but come on, she's a huge standout. Who has run fast enough to beat her?

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

[Thunder Gulch]

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

[sundaysilenceforever]

I love Rags, and think she will win. But at a price I like High Again, with High Heels and Octave. Kinda concerned about the distance for Sealy Hill.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

[sundaysilenceforever]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Was that the race where GG had her in the 6-7 path the whole trip?? If so, that was one of the more impressive performances by a filly this year..

By almost ANY horse this year, male or female. I am excited to see how she does in this stronger field. What a great race it will be!

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

agree 100%, the race you refer to was unreal. As much as I was impressed with Curlins 2 turn debut, RTR running 3-4 wide on both turns, at Santa Anita, and running down more experienced fillies was a real jaw dropper.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't get it

don't worry, you're not alone.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I don't get it

She's saying that people who drop a horse because of the odds are idiots. She referenced Ouija Board (who was an obvious single.) I don't know of many on here who DIDN'T use Ouija Board, but whatever... maybe Gander tossed her? LOL

[slotdirt]

Anybody see the Aegon Turf entries? Those characters certainly deserve themselves a Breeders Cup race. Mighty Beau and Sgt. Bert!

[hockey2315]

Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Can someone with the PPs tell me who the speed in the race is please? Thanks. . .

Dreaming of Anna and Mistical Plan will most likely be on or near the lead. But there is no need to take my word for it, because the PPs are free on DRF.com this week.
Here you go: http://www.drf.com/row/pps/07kentuckyoaks.pdf
Personally I think this race is pretty wide open. I think Rags is a bit overrated, and there are 3 or 4 others here that wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Okay, now I get it. I see her point, just couldn't understand what she wrote.

3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

3 and a half years of deciphering and I can sometimes get it.

The "words" like causve and mustve tend to throw me off.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

I think Rags will win in a jog if the track is fast. Im tossing Anna though, dont like her, i do like Autobahn Girl and Tough Tiz's Sis underneath and will play a few backup tickets with them on top

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

Wow, this group did a lot of running.
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by philcski

Wow, this group did a lot of running.
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

That was the point of busting my own balls. The 3YO fillies are horrifically bad this year...

but a great one runs next Friday

[Danzig]

it's a shame that whenever it's mentioned that a filly might face off against colts, ruffian is brought up by someone!

why not mention genuine risk, or ouija board? lady's secret? winning colors?

as tho the fact ruffian was facing a colt somehow increased the odds of a breakdown. how ridiculous--so much for using your head, emotional responses are always so much more interesting.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's a shame that whenever it's mentioned that a filly might face off against colts, ruffian is brought up by someone!

why not mention genuine risk, or ouija board? lady's secret? winning colors?

as tho the fact ruffian was facing a colt somehow increased the odds of a breakdown. how ridiculous--so much for using your head, emotional responses are always so much more interesting.

I agree with that for the most part, when Go For Wand broke down it was a bit ironic (as well as very tragic) because she had been considered for the BCC and the owners opted for what they thought was a "softer" spot...unfortunately, they couldn't forsee what turned out to be a head-to-head duel all around the track with a talented and tough as nails older filly! The concern is always that when champion horses exert to the max they will run through warning pain often with tragic results, 12 furlongs will require max effort for this filly...I'm sorry but I'd wait for another spot!