Street Sense Not For Me....

Cajungator26 · #1 04-30-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

Coming from Jersey, the armpit of America, nice.

If he is the best 3 year old in the world that is prepping for this race and he was and still is far superior to the field in the Bluegrass as it seems many think on here, then yes, I believe he should have won, Bottom line.

How about this guy, genius? Was he the best 3 year old?

http://www.secretariat.com/past_performance.htm

estreetposse · #2 04-30-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

How about this guy, genius? Was he the best 3 year old?

http://www.secretariat.com/past_performance.htm

1) What did I do or say to you?

2) I don't see the comparison between "Blocky's"(I know u luv'em) last race and SS last...
Sec was 5-6 lengths back while SS no further than 3 off the entire
race and should have pulled it out if he truly is the best in this crop, IMO.

And to the Jersey Folk:

I was roomates at school with a bunch of guys from NJ, I know it's not that bad, but it was the
nicest thing to say that was in my head at the time, I apologize to the rest of the Jersey folk.

Cajungator26 · #3 04-30-2007, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

1) What did I do or say to you?

2) I don't see the comparison between "Blocky's"(I know u luv'em) last race and SS last...
Sec was 5-6 lengths back while SS no further than 3 off the entire
race and should have pulled it out if he truly is the best in this crop, IMO.

And to the Jersey Folk:

I was roomates at school with a bunch of guys from NJ, I know it's not that bad, but it was the
nicest thing to say that was in my head at the time, I apologize to the rest of the Jersey folk.

Nothing... it just irks me that you can hold it against a horse like Street Sense for losing a race. Just an awfully bold comment for you to make, that's all. LOL on the 'Blocky' reference.

estreetposse · #4 04-30-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nothing... it just irks me that you can hold it against a horse like Street Sense for losing a race. Just an awfully bold comment for you to make, that's all. LOL on the 'Blocky' reference.

Alright, I understand, but can someone explain why he lost the race and then tell me why it seems I can't try to beat him in the derby? Like I've said 2 or 3x before, I just don't like him on top but will probably use him underneath.
I'll check back manana to see who else wants a whack at me, Good Night.

Cajungator26 · #5 04-30-2007, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by estreetposse

Alright, I understand, but can someone explain why he lost the race and then tell me why it seems I can't try to beat him in the derby? Like I've said 2 or 3x before, I just don't like him on top but will probably use him underneath.
I'll check back manana to see who else wants a whack at me, Good Night.

Nothing wrong with trying to beat him... if anything, I'd try to beat him by the fact that he's only had two starts as a 3 year old. But just out of curiosity... IF he had won by a neck in the Blue Grass, would you still be trying to beat him?

whodey17 · #6 04-30-2007, 10:06 PM

Not sure how anyone can say SS was outrun in the Bluegrass. SS was on his left lead drifted in behind Great Hunter, then got on his right lead, then Teuf came out and SS switched back to his left lead and lugged in, it wasnt until the finish line when SS switched back to his right lead. After all of this, he loses by a nose to a horse who loves Polytrack.

For me the knock on SS is his tendecy not to switch leads. He had a hard time getting to the correct lead in the Bluegrass and in the BC Juve he ran almost the entire stretch on his left lead.

The Bid · #7 04-30-2007, 10:22 PM

How many times has SS been off the board

Scurlogue Champ · #8 04-30-2007, 10:25 PM

I think it depends on your definition of "outrun."

In my opinion he was outran because he didn't win.

He had every shot and didn't get there.

If he would have won, he wouldn't have been outran. He would have outran everyone else.

If the margin is what you are suggesting, then that is a valid point. But that race goes down in history as Dominican's. Street Sense's stallion advertisement isn't going to say Bluegrass Stakes (GR. 1) didn't get outran

it will say Bluegrass Stakes (GR. 1) 2nd

estreetposse · #9 05-01-2007, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Nothing wrong with trying to beat him... if anything, I'd try to beat him by the fact that he's only had two starts as a 3 year old. But just out of curiosity... IF he had won by a neck in the Blue Grass, would you still be trying to beat him?

Yes, I would, by a neck, nose, length etc....2 preps as a 3, same as AGS but I like the extra week, 2 wins by storming the rail which I don't think anyone will let it happen again and I don't feel he can be pushed 5+ wide and win with other talented colts in this field. He is one of the best in the field, and I will play him underneath, it just seems like I am being forced to love him and key him when I don't and probably won't.

Danzig · #10 05-01-2007, 07:47 AM

going by what street sense has done, both last year and this....didn't he run on poly just before the bc juvie? didn't win the poly race, but of course trounced the field at churchill......those who ignore history and all that.

as for him being outrun a few weeks ago--i don't think a headbob either way means a horse out ran, or was out run by, another horse. also, did street sense give weight to dominican? or was it level weights for all?

estreetposse · #11 05-01-2007, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I am almost reluctant to respond as I don't want you to go tattle to the other place and say how you are being forced to do something. No one is forcing anything, it was a discussion. That's what happens here, we discuss things. At no point yesterday did it get out of hand, so your post is way off, here and there. Honestly, I and I'm sure everyone else forcing...errr discussing this could care less if you like SS. Bet who you like. To bet someone else other than who you like because someone on a message board said so would be ludicrous. You stated why you didn't like SS, those that do like him responded. If you didn't want a response maybe you shouldn't have posted it, as this is a message board and the point is to discuss things.

You didn't have to respond as I was replying to Cajun...but thanks for your input. You are right, nobody is forcing me to play SS...as I have said, I will play him, underneath on my own. For a period of time discussion it was not, it was like many have done before...stand the boy up and tie him to the whipping post and start lashing. I am not in the majority here, as I remember, I believe only 3 of us argued against SS. Should I change my opinion of SS, Nafzger, or the Bluegrass? Maybe. Will I? When the posts come out possibly I will. We 3 who stated our claims against haven't swayed any opinions, nor have any of those for swayed mine. As for the other site, they all know what goes on here and you all know what goes on there, I'm not getting into a pissing match when the common goal is the same...HORSERACING!!! I've said all I can say on this, thank you for everyones input.