Curlin

Cajungator26 · #1 04-26-2007, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Curlin is joining the ranks of Afleet Alex and Bernardini for most threads ever about one horse. Perhaps there can be a "Curlin" section in the main forum?

Curlin = Showing Up

Just my two cents.

Curlin = not ready for 10 furlongs.

ateamstupid · #2 04-26-2007, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin = not ready for 10 furlongs.

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

Cajungator26 · #3 04-26-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

Not me... I'll admit I'm concerned about Scat Daddy getting that last 1/8th of a mile, but I think he'll be at the wire before Curlin.

ateamstupid · #4 04-26-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not me... I'll admit I'm concerned about Scat Daddy getting that last 1/8th of a mile, but I think he'll be at the wire before Curlin.

Fair enough. I don't think there's any median opinion on Curlin. Everyone seems to either think he'll win or get trounced.

Slewbopper · #5 04-26-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Fair enough. I don't think there's any median opinion on Curlin. Everyone seems to either think he'll win or get trounced.

I think it is between him and Street Sense.

alysheba4 · #6 04-26-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You think that Scat Daddy is? I'd take Curlin at ten furlongs way before I'd take Scat Daddy.

........ i hear that, this horse along with S.S. look to be the 2 that will STILL be running ater 9 furlongs.

MarkyD · #7 04-26-2007, 08:23 PM

I think that Curlin does not deserve squat right now. If he wins the derby, then he gets my full respect.

To think of this guy being a ML favorite after 3 races, even if he has impressed.

I say this cause, SmartyJones destroyed opposition as a 2year old. 2-5 fav in the count fleet, no problem. Swept the Oaklawn meet and still went off at 5-1(ml 9/2).

So Curlin has no excuse to be anything under 8-1 IMO. If he wins good for him, but his odds have to be justified.

byalip · #8 04-26-2007, 08:47 PM

Anyone who doubts Curlin's ability better review the start of the AK Derby. Watch how he uses his tactical speed to establish his path. A lessor horse might not have had the turn of foot OR the guts to dominate the path he chose. Curlin easily could have been squeezed back if he was faint of heart...but he got his position.

Then he relaxed.

Then he turned it up a notch and took off.

He's my pick and has been since the Rebel. Too bad about the odds, but so far I have some hope...he's no better than #4 on most nat'l. handicapper's lists.

pointman · #9 04-26-2007, 10:22 PM

I'm glad that you mentioned tactical speed, that is something that I also think that this horse has and tactical speed wins a lot of races, including derbies. Of course, nothing is definitive until the race is drawn, but I think that if Curlin gets a descent post he has the tactical speed to get a clear trip and has shown he has enough to get home, don't see the extra furlong being a problem.

jpops757 · #10 04-26-2007, 11:25 PM

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I'm glad that you mentioned tactical speed, that is something that I also think that this horse has and tactical speed wins a lot of races, including derbies. Of course, nothing is definitive until the race is drawn, but I think that if Curlin gets a descent post he has the tactical speed to get a clear trip and has shown he has enough to get home, don't see the extra furlong being a problem.

The only way his post will hurt him is f he gets wipped out comming out of the gate. His speed wil enable him to get position and relax.With all of these horses experience and maturity, none are more profesional on the track. Even with just three races he races more maturely than any have. The only way you can tell he only has had only three races is by looking at his record. If you look at his record all you can see is a profesional very good colt that noone has found a way to beat.

#11 04-26-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by byalip

... He's my pick and has been since the Rebel. Too bad about the odds, but so far I have some hope...he's no better than #4 on most nat'l. handicapper's lists.

He seems to be no. 1 on the public's list, however.

The Indomitable DrugS · #12 04-26-2007, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Curlin = not ready for 10 furlongs.

And which horse pointing to the race looked better than him at 9 furlongs?

#13 04-26-2007, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And which horse pointing to the race looked better than him at 9 furlongs?

Possibly Tiago; and maybe the super horses that ran in the Bluegrass. But you have a pt.

pointman · #14 04-26-2007, 05:07 PM

Another 1/8th surely did not look like a problem to me for Curlin off his last.

slotdirt · #15 04-26-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by easy goer

Possibly Tiago; and maybe the super horses that ran in the Bluegrass. But you have a pt.

Turf races don't count.

#16 04-26-2007, 05:10 PM

You are really not helping me get a price on Curlin.

tiznowthegreat · #17 04-26-2007, 05:19 PM

I don't get the issue with Albarado? He has been great this year so far. It's truly hard to find many that have been riding better than him. What else could he do for some of you to not look at him as a negative? I know that he hasn't always been that good, but man he is on fire this year.

Bobby Fischer · #18 04-26-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

And which horse pointing to the race looked better than him at 9 furlongs?

Curlin improved in the Arkansas Derby in terms of raw fractions vs the 8.5furlong Rebel. Some of that was due to the trip but it was impressive. Curlin actually came home the last 3 furlongs in the Arkansas faster than Tiago came home the last three in the Santa Anita.

I think Curlin will be right with the best horses on Derby day, I don't expect him to win, but it wouldn't be shocked.