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Old 04-26-2007, 01:28 PM
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maybe. however, i liked the old fashioned trainers that used to put their foot down when an owner was about to try something stupid. ultimately, in my eyes, the trainer should be responsible for stupid moves like this. is he that afraid that owner will change trainers?
Owners often change trainers for much more trivial matters than being told that they are stupid. There are very few trainers that have the luxury of being able to tell the owner not to do someting stupid and keep their horses.
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Old 04-26-2007, 08:40 PM
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Private trainer, big owner, and they've been married and divorced and married again -- more than once, LOL. I often question who is calling what shot in many cases -- jock, spot, etc.

From what I hear, Catalano is going public, maybe full blown, and Calabrese is moving some of the soldiers around, or just riding out what he has and restocking with a few others. Maybe true, maybe not. Not really sure.

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Old 04-26-2007, 11:41 PM
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I just dont know if I could train for him. I have heard some crazy things about his owner skills.
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Old 04-27-2007, 08:53 AM
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Also, I don't know if he's still on the team -- he's been off and on before as well -- but Steve Leving is/was also involved. I don't know any of them personally. I did meet Wayne once.

However, regardless of who calls the shots, this guy is a high % trainer. He's produced for other owners before. They play the game the right way, place their horses aggressively, etc. In the past, Catalano was training for Turf Express, and a few other owners also.

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Old 04-27-2007, 09:21 AM
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She obviously likes Churchill and this isn't the greatest group of 3 year old fillies ever. She could finish in the money in the Oaks. This is a hundred times easier to rationalize than first-time starter in the Arkansas Derby.
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:22 AM
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She obviously likes Churchill and this isn't the greatest group of 3 year old fillies ever. She could finish in the money in the Oaks. This is a hundred times easier to rationalize than first-time starter in the Arkansas Derby.
or even Teuflesberg in the Derby.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:29 AM
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Owners often change trainers for much more trivial matters than being told that they are stupid. There are very few trainers that have the luxury of being able to tell the owner not to do someting stupid and keep their horses.
Chuck, put Sumwon in the Oaks, pronto!

I've polled the partners (didn't you know?)... skip Saturday. Go straight to the Oaks. No lip or we'll find someone who will
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:41 PM
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Chuck, put Sumwon in the Oaks, pronto!

I've polled the partners (didn't you know?)... skip Saturday. Go straight to the Oaks. No lip or we'll find someone who will
If you guys come up with the entry fees we'll do it. I would hate to see 36 of in a single box though.
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:43 PM
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If you guys come up with the entry fees we'll do it. I would hate to see 36 of in a single box though.
That's what I'm talkin' about!!!! All Sumwon partners, cash call is being dispatched....
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