Alec Baldwin v. my brother

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I still looking for one name, a man that is a great humanitarian and family man. I must have some hope the world is OK.

Buffet. Maried over 50 years to the same gal til she passed. Worth $50 Billion (3rd wealthiest in the world). Current salary $100,000 (Ave salary for F500 CEOs is $10,000,000). Giving it all away. His $30 Bil donation to the Gates Foundation is the largest charitable gift ever.

Carlos Slim. Mexican telecom. Son of Christian Lebanese immigrants, worth $50 billion (2nd wealthiest). He is giving it all away by matching, dollar for dollar, all charitable donations in Mexico until it's gone.

Gates.

All good family men.

[timmgirvan]

Very good,S2S!

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Buffet. Maried over 50 years to the same gal til she passed. Worth $50 Billion (3rd wealthiest in the world). Current salary $100,000 (Ave salary for F500 CEOs is $10,000,000). Giving it all away. His $30 Bil donation to the Gates Foundation is the largest charitable gift ever.

Carlos Slim. Mexican telecom. Son of Christian Lebanese immigrants, worth $50 billion (2nd wealthiest). He is giving it all away by matching, dollar for dollar, all charitable donations in Mexico until it's gone.

Gates.

All good family men.

Ok I got a little breathing space. They are giving away money though. Ideas.

Im looking for guys who have lived their lives with the great humanitarian ideals, that also lived good family lives. I think most of the men on this list are just rich and have decided to use their money for good causes. I dont think they had these ideas in mind when they first started. I think they are giving back. It would really help if I had someone who started with humanitarian ideas in mind and also lived these same ideas. Intellectuals in the human condition, not necessarily business men who become incredibly weathly and felt they owed something back and then later in life when they felt their own mortality turned their gaze to the human condition (better late than never). Nonetheless a comforting try.

And I know I like at least two of the men. Although Gates is so incredibly ill-informed about education as it exists today, that his initiatives wont work. He needs a solid background in the major problems, otherwise he will be throwing money into a pit of educational bureaucrats... yes, even in his more private look at education.

Maybe I just have to stick with men, or women, that are in some sort of religious position. Folks that are humanitarians with big ideas that have written extensively and have spent their lives striving to fulfill propositions, but not necessarily wealthy.

[timmgirvan]

"just rich"? I'd like to be just rich like these guys. And giving it back is the icing on the cake for THEM! You seem to unintentionally dismiss what they've accomplished...I daresay none of the 3 listed are of the "Enron" ilk. The only Intellectuals I would trust are the guys like YOU,for instance, who are using and piecing together protocols for productively existing on this planet and in this society. At least....I think that's what you're doing

[Danzig]

pg, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. don't think that the alec baldwins of the world are at all a good indication of what everyone else is like!!

[2MinsToPost]

The "Baldwin" incident was on local radio this morning

WOW!

[skippy3481]

Buffet is one hell of a nice guy, and probably the most brilliant business mind on the planet.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

"just rich"? I'd like to be just rich like these guys. And giving it back is the icing on the cake for THEM! You seem to unintentionally dismiss what they've accomplished...

Well we might just live on different planets. Striving for the almighty dollar and finding the almight dollar has never been a goal for me so I dont see it as anything I personally would want to accomplish. I dont respect these guys because they have become rich. The accumulation of wealth may be a grand goal for you and others, and you can have it. I see nothing wrong with this endeavor. I just dont want it to get in the way of what is important to me. I would rather live through memorable times. Some of the best moments I can think of had nothing to do with money. They came unexpectedly and usually occurred in the presence of loved ones.

Like I said my brother walked out on 300 million dollars and growing. So my family may just have a completely diff. mindset than others. I will not live with a woman I cannot stand for 1 billion dollars. I got more than enough money to do what I want, which is thankfully not expensive. I feel blessed to not crave much that involves the acquisition of material. Got no interest in fancy cars, dont know what I would do with a 6 room house, dont need a big boat, I got a kayak... I feel like the lucky one.

So I dont dismiss what they have done, its quite amazing. But accumulating wealth would never ever be something important to me. Becoming a great writer is quite amazing to me also. But its not something I strive to do. I have great respect for great writers because I feel especially lacking in this area. But its not something at the top of my list.

Back to Alec. I cant ever imagine talking to a kid like that. I was never pummeled with stuff like that. My dad would strap the crud out of me, but I never got verbally abused. Maybe his daughter has tried to kill him.

[timmgirvan]

Pgardn: I don't think they started out to be rich..they were wildly successful in their endeavors and their wealth is a handsome by-product of their combo of timing,hard work,and skill. btw...we are very similar on what is important vs the frivolities of life.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Pgardn: I don't think they started out to be rich..they were wildly successful in their endeavors and their wealth is a handsome by-product of their combo of timing,hard work,and skill. btw...we are very similar on what is important vs the frivolities of life.

Does not really matter to me personally where they started. For all we know they could have a loved one with a severe medical condition that cant be solved by wealth. I have had experience with this. My father made a very good living as a real estate lawyer. He accumulated wealth from an extremely poor position, dirt poor. Good for him RIP. But it did not help my mother. I lived a very comfortable childhood monetarily, but it did not mean squat to me as my mother was always sick. I think this experience turned me the other way, as I saw money could not solve the most important things in my life.

So my dad worked his rear off, got rewarded monetarily, but was not successful in solving the number one family problem which he had no control over. Poor guy tried every expert he could find spending very large sums to find a fix that could not be had by wealth. In a sad way I feel lucky to have experienced this.

BAck to Alec. I have thought and listened to this tirade some more and it is so self centered that I cannot believe anything this man says concerning his altruistic world views. He is a spoiled brat. I used to respect this man as an actor, and spokesman. No longer. Typical guy who is used to getting his way via bullying and money, and when he cant get something accomplished in this manner, he has not a clue about solving problems. People need to listen closely to how self centered that tirade is. Quite shocking.

[pointman]

Alec Baldwin is an a-hole, always has been. I can't stand him, he is a total hypocrite who lives in his fantasy world. Didn't he promise to move out of the USA if Bush got elected? What happened to that promise, I'm still waiting for him to do it. I'm sure that the French would be more than happy to take him.

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Well we might just live on different planets. Striving for the almighty dollar and finding the almight dollar has never been a goal for me so I dont see it as anything I personally would want to accomplish. I dont respect these guys because they have become rich. The accumulation of wealth may be a grand goal for you and others, and you can have it. I see nothing wrong with this endeavor. I just dont want it to get in the way of what is important to me. I would rather live through memorable times. Some of the best moments I can think of had nothing to do with money. They came unexpectedly and usually occurred in the presence of loved ones.

Like I said my brother walked out on 300 million dollars and growing. So my family may just have a completely diff. mindset than others. I will not live with a woman I cannot stand for 1 billion dollars. I got more than enough money to do what I want, which is thankfully not expensive. I feel blessed to not crave much that involves the acquisition of material. Got no interest in fancy cars, dont know what I would do with a 6 room house, dont need a big boat, I got a kayak... I feel like the lucky one.

So I dont dismiss what they have done, its quite amazing. But accumulating wealth would never ever be something important to me. Becoming a great writer is quite amazing to me also. But its not something I strive to do. I have great respect for great writers because I feel especially lacking in this area. But its not something at the top of my list.

Back to Alec. I cant ever imagine talking to a kid like that. I was never pummeled with stuff like that. My dad would strap the crud out of me, but I never got verbally abused. Maybe his daughter has tried to kill him.

Amen Brother.

Live a good live and you will get to relive it again in your memories.

Baldwin will only have fabricated memories in his drunkin state of mind.