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Old 04-20-2007, 04:31 PM
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Contrary to ESPN-hype, it is questionable as to whether HGH alone really enhances performance.
Believe it if ya want. Gary Matthews Jr. just became all the sudden good after getting HGH in 2004? COINCIDENCE? Fact is they don't test for it.Why wouldn't he use it if he thought it was that ,or be in the minors. This guy is in his early 30's.I think many people don't realize that.He is not a youngster getting good.He is a 31 year old( or so )guy that found something.You can't tell a liar? That guy is like an animal in headlights when asked about the HGH he got from a pharmacy.
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Old 04-20-2007, 09:02 PM
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Believe it if ya want. Gary Matthews Jr. just became all the sudden good after getting HGH in 2004? COINCIDENCE? Fact is they don't test for it.Why wouldn't he use it if he thought it was that ,or be in the minors. This guy is in his early 30's.I think many people don't realize that.He is not a youngster getting good.He is a 31 year old( or so )guy that found something.You can't tell a liar? That guy is like an animal in headlights when asked about the HGH he got from a pharmacy.
Someone told me Barry Bonds has gone up two full shoe sizes in the past 5years. I know his head is far more huge. Not just more jowly, but his entire head. That ain't natural.
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wake me in August..Sept...October, if he is hitting them then...when they count.
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:09 PM
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Just got home, was listening to the Yankees/Red Sox game on the radio...why are the BoSox wearing green uniform tops????
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:15 PM
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"AN A-BOMB for A-ROD" I'm starting to hate hearing that call from
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Old 04-20-2007, 10:36 PM
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Just got home, was listening to the Yankees/Red Sox game on the radio...why are the BoSox wearing green uniform tops????
For Red A. (celtics).....
....... Please thank Joe T. for bring in the closer in the Eight
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:07 PM
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For Red A. (celtics).....
....... Please thank Joe T. for bring in the closer in the Eight
Mariano is starting to look his age
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:12 PM
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Isn't he though. He has no pop on his fastball and the cutter just isn't there. Yankees are in desperate need of some pitching help and it's only April. They will win their fair share of games, but they are in trouble this year.
His numbers were starting to hint at this last year as his strikeout rate was way lower than it had been. The Scutaro HR came on a non cutting cutter. Guys are getting around on him, not taking defensive swings. He cant seem to control the inside part of the plate as he did during his dominance.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:57 AM
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Like I said,your only play is to call it a coincidence.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:36 AM
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Well,I have seen you go on and on with people on here in endless fights.IF you want to think HGH doesn't aid performance much,then keep believing it. I am not saying it's a horrible substance,but lets get a level playing field here.
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Old 04-21-2007, 01:49 AM
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I have a limited experience with HGH back in the 80's...and I feel comfortable calling it a quasi-placebo, minimal effect on the procedures we were involved in Hospital programs.
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Old 04-21-2007, 04:18 AM
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I have a limited experience with HGH back in the 80's...and I feel comfortable calling it a quasi-placebo, minimal effect on the procedures we were involved in Hospital programs.
Did you study athletes with the high levels that athletes are now taking? I mean if you give joe the jeweler a lot of hgh he still isn't gunna be looking like an athlete would.This HGH is in all of us,but we lose it.So,if you just adjust the level back to the level one had in their teens,then you would be trying to have the body you had back then.I don't think athletes are trying to do this.They are using way more than a therapeutic amount.Look at Sean MACHEEL (GOLFER) who was out of energy,and was found to have low testosterone levels.The Man has come to life when putting that testosterone cream on.Saved his career.If athletes just used enough hgh to get to a level they had in their teens etc,then this wouldn't be a huge deal.I don't think this is gunna be an issue that much longer,because they will move on to something that is new,and more powerful.
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Old 04-21-2007, 05:50 AM
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Good for Micheel! Anyone over 30 should have their testosterone checked...low levels inhibit sex drive, increase belly fat, osteoporosis! I would like to know what any athlete is thinking when messing with HGH. What proof do they have that they'll gain anything by using the stuff?
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Old 04-21-2007, 09:25 AM
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The whole set up of that game was bee-yoo--tee-ful.

Just to see ARod and the Yanks wipe those smirks off their faces when Okajima smoked 3 in a row after first short pitch.....worth a million.

ARod was so arrogant at that point--assuming he got a walk--and to see him get a weak little flare....worth 2 million

Watching Torre turn his usual shade of gray when disgusted.....priceless.
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http://www.sabernomics.com/sabernomi...er-should-you/

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