Mystery Giver - Block is an idiot

SentToStud · #1 06-30-2006, 08:39 PM

$15.80 to win
no claim
ok, he's a genius.
run him back in the AP Million now.

ateamstupid · #2 06-30-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

$15.80 to win
no claim
ok, he's a genius.
run him back in the AP Million now.

Dunno if that was sarcasm or not.

Scav · #3 06-30-2006, 10:33 PM

I hope you guys see my point on this. Personally, and this is me, if I had a horse at his level, that has made me over 1 million dollars, that horse would NEVER seen a claiming tag and would be getting the most expensive mare hookers that I could get my hands on on a weekly basis.

I always thought Block was a good trainer, but today showed me something from a personality angle. Unless he had some Dutchie agreement(Don't try and claim his horses or you won't get stables next year type thing) and talked to some of the bigger outfits about Mystery Giver, I am extremely disappointed as a fan of Chris Block that he would even RISK losing this horse.

This horse in Illinois is like Funny Cide in NY (I know they have accomplished completely different things but you should understand the point I am trying to get)

ALOT of these horses just give it there all and push themselves to the limits and for what, extra hay and maybe a peppermint, to even be put at risk for only 40k is atrocious(?)...This horse could have easily been claimed today and shipped to like Lone Star and just gobbled up purse after purse and made back that 40k plus another 40k, then 2 years later would have ended up in some horse slaughter line.....just unreal

SentToStud · #4 06-30-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

I hope you guys see my point on this. Personally, and this is me, if I had a horse at his level, that has made me over 1 million dollars, that horse would NEVER seen a claiming tag and would be getting the most expensive mare hookers that I could get my hands on on a weekly basis.

I always thought Block was a good trainer, but today showed me something from a personality angle. Unless he had some Dutchie agreement(Don't try and claim his horses or you won't get stables next year type thing) and talked to some of the bigger outfits about Mystery Giver, I am extremely disappointed as a fan of Chris Block that he would even RISK losing this horse.

This horse in Illinois is like Funny Cide in NY (I know they have accomplished completely different things but you should understand the point I am trying to get)

ALOT of these horses just give it there all and push themselves to the limits and for what, extra hay and maybe a peppermint, to even be put at risk for only 40k is atrocious(?)...This horse could have easily been claimed today and shipped to like Lone Star and just gobbled up purse after purse and made back that 40k plus another 40k, then 2 years later would have ended up in some horse slaughter line.....just unreal

ok, i understand. on the other hand, he could have pulled about $55,000 out of the race today if he was taken and won as well. I guess that's the other way to see it. Who knows... Who would you rather have coaching the Dolphins... Wannstedt or Saban?

SentToStud · #5 06-30-2006, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Dunno if that was sarcasm or not.

No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

Scav · #6 06-30-2006, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

Bruce, he snapped his rear cannon bone in the 04 Million I think, he just got back from that.

He won today, it is good to see, but I lost alot of respect for Block the person, he could have found an optional claiming and not had to put him up for the tag....Just plain dumb and selfish

ateamstupid · #7 06-30-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud

No , not at all. Heck of a training job. To get a win out of an 8 yo who had not run a decent step in two years... good work. Maybe the Million's ambitious, but still a wonderful run by a nice old gelding. Be interesting to see how where/when/how he runs next. Wonder if Block's glad or sorry he didn't get claimed.

He would get cremated in the Million. He barely won against $40k claimers today.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #8 06-30-2006, 10:44 PM

ya think...o board and others ..dont be suprised if gorella shows up..

Scav · #9 06-30-2006, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

ya think...o board and others ..dont be suprised if gorella shows up..

Gorella? Now that would be awesome. You would think she is already showing up to Arlington because of the Beverly D.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #10 06-30-2006, 11:01 PM

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Gorella? Now that would be awesome. You would think she is already showing up to Arlington because of the Beverly D.

well showing up might show up...and to be spanked by qo baord and g rilla would be awsome ..i dont think biancone cant put here in ...his ego demands it

JJP · #11 07-01-2006, 01:17 AM

Block hasn't become one of the top trainers in the Midwest by being stupid. He was right; he placed the horse in the spot WHERE HE BELONGED (he didn't run off and win by 10). He won the race and nobody claimed him. The horse hadn't won in 2 years and he's 8 years old. Who would drop $40,000 for that? Its not as if he dropped him in for $5K. Horses are expensive to keep. I don't think anybody should tell owners to NOT race their horses.

Scav · #12 06-30-2006, 10:45 PM

Ateam, don't forget he was on a 2 year layoff, no way he is fit yet....This being said, I don't think he would have ever won the Million EVEN AT HIS BEST. Serious horses come for the Million, but it is always nice to have a local interest in it, Arlington doesn't get the type of horses NY, Cali or Florida gets.

All in all, I just hope Block knocks this claiming crap off, and if I run into him at Arlington(I am considering going tomorrow just to find him) and I am going to go off on him

ateamstupid · #13 06-30-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Ateam, don't forget he was on a 2 year layoff, no way he is fit yet....This being said, I don't think he would have ever won the Million EVEN AT HIS BEST. Serious horses come for the Million, but it is always nice to have a local interest in it, Arlington doesn't get the type of horses NY, Cali or Florida gets.

All in all, I just hope Block knocks this claiming crap off, and if I run into him at Arlington(I am considering going tomorrow just to find him) and I am going to go off on him

Dude, this was his third start back from that layoff...when's he gonna be fit?

Scav · #14 06-30-2006, 11:04 PM

ATEAM...a two year layoff after shattering his cannon bone, he didn't do anything for two years. How would you feel, look, react to working out if you sat in a chair for one year straight, maybe even 18 months. This isn't knee surgery or knee chip or tendon, had surgery alot like Barbaros(not to the insane extent but you get my point)

EVEN MORE SO now, Block pays to get this surgery done and repair the cannon, and then throws him up for a tag...I am guessing surgery is 100k roughly, maybe Landson can confirm or give us a better idea.