Whos 2nd-4th Derby Lock??

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I can't foresee a situation in which neither Circular Quay nor Tiago hit the board.

Tiago

Did you really just say Tiago could hit the board?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

Tiago

Did you really just say Tiago could hit the board?

Why not, Scav?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Why not, Scav?

1) Mike Smith
2) Mike Smith
3) SLOW
4) no
5) Mike Smith

Squirrel finds an acorn once a winter

Also, no way the pace is anything near when Giacomo wins. I for one love the fact that he is in the race because he has no shot, and will take stupid money because of Giacomo and pretty boy

[tycharles01]

Dont be talking them out of there Tiago,Curlin,Great Hunter bets

All it does is make SS,CQ,AGS odds go higher and higher

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Scav

1) Mike Smith
2) Mike Smith
3) SLOW
4) no
5) Mike Smith

Squirrel finds an acorn once a winter

Also, no way the pace is anything near when Giacomo wins. I for one love the fact that he is in the race because he has no shot, and will take stupid money because of Giacomo and pretty boy

I thought the same thing, but after looking at this horse, I think he's probably a bit more talented than Giacomo. I actually like him better than CQ at this point... I just can't see CQ winning the derby off an 8 week layoff. If he wins it, it'll be bad news bears in the future.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I thought the same thing, but after looking at this horse, I think he's probably a bit more talented than Giacomo. I actually like him better than CQ at this point... I just can't see CQ winning the derby off an 8 week layoff. If he wins it, it'll be bad news bears in the future.

If Pletcher ISN'T dodging anything (anyone really believe that?), then CQ is a far superior animal to Tiago. Though with all of the questions....I'm not really sure.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

If Pletcher ISN'T dodging anything (anyone really believe that?), then CQ is a far superior animal to Tiago. Though with all of the questions....I'm not really sure.

I'm concerned about there being an underlying issue we don't know about. Circular Quay is definitely a talented colt, but I'm just concerned about the long layoff and fact that the colt is 800 lbs soaking wet. How is a colt like that going to withstand the bumping and grinding (no pun intended) of the Derby?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'm concerned about there being an underlying issue we don't know about. Circular Quay is definitely a talented colt, but I'm just concerned about the long layoff and fact that the colt is 800 lbs soaking wet. How is a colt like that going to withstand the bumping and grinding (no pun intended) of the Derby?

He has been bounced around in all his races, and he still comes flying.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I thought the same thing, but after looking at this horse, I think he's probably a bit more talented than Giacomo. I actually like him better than CQ at this point... I just can't see CQ winning the derby off an 8 week layoff. If he wins it, it'll be bad news bears in the future.

Bad news is fine. I was telling GPK tonight that his turn of foot on the dirt is Afleet Alex like. If he is healthy (no wraps whatsoever unlike Bandini last year) I am all over him and not getting talked out of it

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Scav

Bad news is fine. I was telling GPK tonight that his turn of foot on the dirt is Afleet Alex like. If he is healthy (no wraps whatsoever unlike Bandini last year) I am all over him and not getting talked out of it

I posted after CQs second win last summer that he had afleet alex-like acceleration when he wanted to. I backed off on that comparison a bit, because it was hard to tell based on the 2-yos he was beating at the time.
He's my key horse in the derby, and love the fact that his work pattern is on track and JV signed on to ride.

I'm hoping Pletcher and JV are gearing him up for a big one.

[slotdirt]

I love CQ as much as the next guy and I'm certain he would have won the Wood if he had ran, but doesn't this eight week layoff thing bother anybody in the least? This isn't St. Liam and Pletcher isn't Dutrow.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

1) Mike Smith
2) Mike Smith
3) SLOW
4) no
5) Mike Smith

Squirrel finds an acorn once a winter

Also, no way the pace is anything near when Giacomo wins. I for one love the fact that he is in the race because he has no shot, and will take stupid money because of Giacomo and pretty boy

He's a ****ing faster version of Giacomo, so you tell me why he won't keep closing when others are quitting and get a piece.

Mike Smith sucked in New York, but he's capable of a great ride every once in a while, and this is his kind of horse.

Unless they go :24 and :49, he'll crack the super.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He's a ****ing faster version of Giacomo, so you tell me why he won't keep closing when others are quitting and get a piece.

Mike Smith sucked in New York, but he's capable of a great ride every once in a while, and this is his kind of horse.

Unless they go :24 and :49, he'll crack the super.

Almost the same TG wise, except less races for Tiago....

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Scav

1) Mike Smith
2) Mike Smith
3) SLOW
4) no
5) Mike Smith

Squirrel finds an acorn once a winter

Also, no way the pace is anything near when Giacomo wins. I for one love the fact that he is in the race because he has no shot, and will take stupid money because of Giacomo and pretty boy

Remember Smith's ride on Flashy Bull last year? He may be the only horse to ever run 15 furlongs in the Kentucky Derby.