Any Given Saturday gets my offical Derby endorsement

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by philcski

Since I'm not a TG/Rags guy, what's the typical par to win the Derby? 0? -1?

I'm pretty new to the TG/rags world myself. I can't provide much in the way of historical context. Scav's, or Randall can chime in if they are around.

my guess is that the winner averages around zero, maybe slightly negative.

For context Street Sense ran the best juvenile ever and got a neg 2.