Is Curlin being overrated by the margins over nothing horses?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

By the way, I don't believe Curlin could have run faster than he did yesterday.

Hardly a bold statement. Didn't he go sub 12 for the last furlong? I think someone would have to be on crack to think he could have gone faster.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Hardly a bold statement. Didn't he go sub 12 for the last furlong? I think someone would have to be on crack to think he could have gone faster.

You took it out of context ( I didn't feel a need to reprint the long post I was responding to ) in that the other poster had said Street Sense worked hard and Curlin wasn't full out ( or something like that ). I was disagreeing.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You took it out of context ( I didn't feel a need to reprint the long post I was responding to ) in that the other poster had said Street Sense worked hard and Curlin wasn't full out ( or something like that ). I was disagreeing.

I'm going to go out on a limb that whatever poster said that never actually bothered to look at the fractions of the race and probably thought the same thing about Bernardini being able to go much faster if pressed prior to the BC Classic. That or they're on crack.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I'm going to go out on a limb that whatever poster said that never actually bothered to look at the fractions of the race and probably thought the same thing about Bernardini being able to go much faster if pressed prior to the BC Classic. That or they're on crack.

I would agree with that. The old " he wasn't going all out " is almost universally wrong.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I would agree with that. The old " he wasn't going all out " is almost universally wrong.

It really isn't hard to figure out either by looking at the fractions. If Curlin was eased through the wire and finished in 14 flat after putting away the field then he probably wasn't going all out. When the closing fractions are quite fast though it is pretty compelling evidence that the horse was all out. It just amazes me how many people use their visual interpretation to determine whether a horse was all out rather than the facts on the chart.

[ArlJim78]

It is correct in my opinion to say that he couldn't have gone faster in any significant sense.

My question is does he need to?

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You took it out of context ( I didn't feel a need to reprint the long post I was responding to ) in that the other poster had said Street Sense worked hard and Curlin wasn't full out ( or something like that ). I was disagreeing.

If your referring to me as the "other poster" I dont think I said this, and that post was edited a few min. later. If you read it the first time it could be confusing..