What kinda price DO YOU want on you're Derby pick???

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Right Cardus. The ML odds set by the track oddsmakers usually add up to well over the track takeout. For the Arkansas Derby yesterday, the morning line added to 131%, which would only be reasonable if the takeout was 24%.

I wasn't sure if Hickory Hoff was giving what he thought would be fair odds given the takout (should add to 119% for a 16% takeout), or fair odds in the absense of takeout. (should add to 100%). The more useful figure for betting purposes is a line that adds to 100%.

--Dunbar

Math wasn't one of my better subjects...

[-BT-]

KY Derby Future Wager Pool 3 Odds
# Horse M/L Odds
1 Any Given Saturday 15-1
2 Belgravia 50-1
3 Birdbirdistheword 50-1
4 Chelokee 15-1
5 Circular Quay 8-1
6 Cowtown Cat 15-1
7 Curlin 12-1
8 Deadly Dealer 50-1
9 Dominican 50-1
10 Great Hunter 10-1
11 Hard Spun 12-1
12 Liquidity 30-1
13 Nobiz Like Shobiz 6-1
14 Notional 15-1
15 Officer Rocket 50-1
16 Reporting for Duty 50-1
17 Sam P. 30-1
18 Scat Daddy 8-1
19 Stormello 20-1
20 Street Sense 5-1
21 Teuflesberg 50-1
22 Tiago 15-1
23 Zanjero 30-1

this is the futrue odds i got from drf.com. And i love it when the public jumps on a horse like Chelokee @15-1 and a horse like Curlin @ 12-1. I hope the same people making these future bets do the same come derby day and knock that horse to single digits for a ALW N1X horse

-bt-

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

Math wasn't one of my better subjects...

Your "line" was way better than the usual morning line nonsense.

--Dunbar

[JDank34]

Nobody is talking about Street Sense. Don't rule out this horse as he LOVES Churchill, and he basically ran a similar race in the Bluegrass to the race in the Lanes End last fall. He made the lead then was a little short. We all know what he did in his next start. Don't forget what Carl did with Unbridled in the Bluegrass and then 3 weeks later under the spires.

[brockguy]

just for comparison, these are the best prices available from british bookies:

Curlin (5/1) ,
Scat Daddy (6/1) ,
Street Sense (7/1) ,
Nobiz Like Shobiz (9/1) ,
Circular Quay (10/1) ,
Dominican (14/1) ,
Great Hunter (14/1) ,
Notional (14/1) ,
Tiago (16/1) ,
Any Given Saturday (20/1) ,
Hard Spun (20/1) ,
Chelokee (25/1) ,
Cowtown Cat (25/1) ,
Stormello (25/1) ,
Zanjero (25/1) ,
Air Commander (33/1) ,
Deadly Dealer (33/1) ,
Drums of Thunder (33/1) ,
Ketchikan (33/1) ,
King Of The Roxy (33/1)

any nice bets there?