Derby horses with no wins on dirt

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Bold Arrangement finished second to Ferdinand in 1986. Clive Brittain brought him here. Perhaps he ran on dirt in England, but I don't know for sure.

I think he ran well in the Bluegrass when the BG was 2 weeks before the Derby or run on a Thursday or something like that

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I think he ran well in the Bluegrass when the BG was 2 weeks before the Derby or run on a Thursday or something like that

Quite right - he was third in the Bluegrass before he was second in the Derby, but his only wins were on turf. I'm not even sure they had AW racing in GB in those days (mid 1980s), and even now, few top 2yos like Bold Arrangement (listed winner, twice G1-placed) is going to run on the AW as part of their classic preparation.