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Old 04-14-2007, 06:34 PM
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That isn't really horse racing......

Can you imagine if they run the Breeders Cup over that joke of a surface?

The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place finishers in the Commonwealth all exited one-mile turf races in there last start.

Than you have the Blue Grass....where a horse gets off with an uncontested lead through 26 and 51 fractions, and can't run a straight line through the stretch....while a deep closer rallies past two serious Derby horses to win.

How exactly did the 4th place finisher not get DQ'ed....once Prado started hitting him left handed, he came out SEVERAL paths, and clearly fouled Great Hunter. That was pretty amusing.....it made the whole race look even more absurd than it was in the first place.

Cory was on Great Hunter and he said after the race that "it was no big deal", Great Hunter appeared finished anyway but it sure looked bad on TV.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:35 PM
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Cory was on Great Hunter and he said after the race that "it was no big deal", Great Hunter appeared finished anyway but it sure looked bad on TV.
Well he could have complained and given me the difference in his 10% cut. I thought T should have come down too.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:37 PM
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Cory was on Great Hunter and he said after the race that "it was no big deal", Great Hunter appeared finished anyway but it sure looked bad on TV.
Obviously the rider will say that....his horse clearly wasn't winning, and getting moved up from 5th to 4th means nothing to him.....and probably nothing to any bettors either---except those played the superfecta.

That is a no doubt about it DQ....you can't come out several paths and foul a horse like that....and not come down.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:40 PM
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Obviously the rider will say that....his horse clearly wasn't winning, and getting moved up from 5th to 4th means nothing to him.....and probably nothing to any bettors either---except those played the superfecta.

That is a no doubt about it DQ....you can't come out several paths and foul a horse like that....and not come down.
Obviously you are wrong cause he wasn't taken down!
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:43 PM
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Obviously you are wrong cause he wasn't taken down!
Teuflesberg should have been taken down... clearly. Great Hunter probably wasn't winning either way, but being bumped like that didn't help.
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Old 04-14-2007, 06:48 PM
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I guess you had a "little guy" Kentucky trainer 4th and a "big name" California trainer 5th....but the stewards can't forget there was a superfecta in that race.

I guess Fifth-Third bank and a very tiny fraction of superfecta players were affected any by it...and no one else.

What's ironic is, how stewards NOTORIOUSLY focus and overrate on fouls commited in the stretch run--as opposed to fouls commited in the early stages of races (when the impact is more severe)

However, in a race where they go 26 and 51 early on---and get the last 3/8ths in 34 and change---getting fouled in the stretch run is more severe than getting fouled in the early stages.
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Old 04-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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I guess you had a "little guy" Kentucky trainer 4th and a "big name" California trainer 5th....but the stewards can't forget there was a superfecta in that race.

I guess Fifth-Third bank and a very tiny fraction of superfecta players were affected any by it...and no one else.

What's ironic is, how stewards NOTORIOUSLY focus and overrate on fouls commited in the stretch run--as opposed to fouls commited in the early stages of races (when the impact is more severe)

However, in a race where they go 26 and 51 early on---and get the last 3/8ths in 34 and change---getting fouled in the stretch run is more severe than getting fouled in the early stages.

All kidding aside, I agree it sure looked like a foul to me too! By the way, they announced on TV that the owner of Great Hunter had reached an out-of-court settlement with the bank so possibly it no longer mattered to them. Great Hunter is safely in the Derby field so the only ones effected were the exotic betters...still, sure looked like a foul!
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