Comely - G2

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

But she's never run a good race.

I don't think any of these have run a 'good' race. Perfect Forest hasn't had to overcome anything in any of her races, although it is looking like she might not have to tomorrow either.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I don't think any of these have run a 'good' race. Perfect Forest hasn't had to overcome anything in any of her races, although it is looking like she might not have to tomorrow either.

A number of these have run better races than Fee Fi Fo Fum. There's more than a reasonable chance she won't get a perfect trip everytime she runs.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A number of these have run better races than Fee Fi Fo Fum. There's more than a reasonable chance she won't get a perfect trip everytime she runs.

Honestly I see Perfect Forest tough to beat even though she isn't that much of a spectacular filly.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Honestly I see Perfect Forest tough to beat even though she isn't that much of a spectacular filly.

I don't know if I would call her THE horse to beat but she's certainly one of them. It's actually kind of an interesting race.

I guess Perfect Forest will be the favorite but it should be close. It's not an easy race to get a read on.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't know if I would call her THE horse to beat but she's certainly one of them. It's actually kind of an interesting race.

I guess Perfect Forest will be the favorite but it should be close. It's not an easy race to get a read on.

That is why I started this thread...Pletcher irks me, just when you think you might be able to beat him you can't. I'm awful at finding his weak favorites, unless you have Gomez on one of his other starters at a price. LOL

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

That is why I started this thread...Pletcher irks me, just when you think you might be able to beat him you can't. I'm awful at finding his weak favorites, unless you have Gomez on one of his other starters at a price. LOL

He's a terrific trainer, with great help, a great program, and a barnful of WAY better than average horses. He rules all divisions. But, he's overbet, so if you are selective you do fine playing against him. He is not a trainer with a positive ROI. His horses pay slightly better than $2 less the takeout.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He's a terrific trainer, with great help, a great program, and a barnful of WAY better than average horses. He rules all divisions. But, he's overbet, so if you are selective you do fine playing against him. He is not a trainer with a positive ROI. His horses pay slightly better than $2 less the takeout.

I always try, but to no avail. I "seem" to find a spot in which he is vulnerable.(large fields, bad posts) Works out rarely in my favor. His horses seem to find another gear coming down the backstretch, as the others hit plywood. Is this due more to the quality of his stock or his tinkering with them??

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

A number of these have run better races than Fee Fi Fo Fum. There's more than a reasonable chance she won't get a perfect trip everytime she runs.

Granted she's hard to like anywhere close to her 7/2 m/l given her short resume, but her Bonnie Miss race was a good effort IMHO, especially since it was her first effort vs winners and only 2d l/t start. Bravo gave her a poor ride that day, forced to steady 2 or 3 times down the backside and still she kept her composure and finished with good energy in the lane vs a couple of very good fillies. If she moves forward off that effort she's in the mix late vs these.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank

Granted she's hard to like anywhere close to her 7/2 m/l given her short resume, but her Bonnie Miss race was a good effort IMHO, especially since it was her first effort vs winners and only 2d l/t start. Bravo gave her a poor ride that day, forced to steady 2 or 3 times down the backside and still she kept her composure and finished with good energy in the lane vs a couple of very good fillies. If she moves forward off that effort she's in the mix late vs these.

Believe me, I think Bravo's riding performance at Gulfstream this meet was downright pathetic, but I can neither fault his ride on Fee Fi Fo Fum nor see what trouble you are talking about. Mildly steadying along, while inside in the pocket, especially in a two turn race at Gulfstream, is pretty close to a perfect trip to me.

[hurricanefrank]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Believe me, I think Bravo's riding performance at Gulfstream this meet was downright pathetic, but I can neither fault his ride on Fee Fi Fo Fum nor see what trouble you are talking about. Mildly steadying along, while inside in the pocket, especially in a two turn race at Gulfstream, is pretty close to a perfect trip to me.

The fact that Bravo takes the reigns again seems to support your point. I was somewhat surprised that he did get the call back to ride. That said, my view of the race was that in steadying along down inside (and I thought it more than mild) she never looked comfortable nor able to hit her best stride. She may be the type that does her best running outside horses; tomorrow should present her with a chance to do that.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hurricanefrank

The fact that Bravo takes the reigns again seems to support your point. I was somewhat surprised that he did get the call back to ride. That said, my view of the race was that in steadying along down inside (and I thought it more than mild) she never looked comfortable nor able to hit her best stride. She may be the type that does her best running outside horses; tomorrow should present her with a chance to do that.

Maybe, though she didn't pick it up that strongly when wheeled out in the lane. However, it's easily possible she wasn't comfortable inside.