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Old 04-10-2007, 12:15 PM
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I thought I heard that Jack Junior was going to the derby for sure. Anybody else heard that?
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:23 PM
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I thought I heard that Jack Junior was going to the derby for sure. Anybody else heard that?
I think it's the opposite. . .
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Old 04-10-2007, 04:39 PM
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How great would it be for Skip Code to win the Derby?

Go Skippy!
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:31 AM
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How great would it be for Skip Code to win the Derby?

Go Skippy!




YOU BETCHA!!!!
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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Sightseeing to skip derby and only go to the Preakness "if it looks like the derby wasn't a good race" and the preakness "will be one of those 6-7 horse fields" according to the TDN...
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:42 PM
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Birdbirdistheword is supposedly going to have a go at a turf career instead per Bloodhorse. They basically said they're out though. Not sure where they're looking but it ain't on dirt at Churchill in May apparently.
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Old 04-15-2007, 07:45 AM
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Maybe it doesn't matter but Great Hunter is listed twice. Since Chelokee is left out in the cold, Zanjero is my super secret hopefully 30-1 include in the exacta.

I just weighed him down big time
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:16 AM
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Maybe it doesn't matter but Great Hunter is listed twice. Since Chelokee is left out in the cold, Zanjero is my super secret hopefully 30-1 include in the exacta.

I just weighed him down big time

I think Chelokee will get in, he's sitting 22nd and There are a few in the top 20 that are unlikely. I dont know about Officer Rocket, but he didnt run that well yesterday maybe they will hold off on the derby. Who knows about Song in May also, so I think Chelokee will make it when all said and done.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:34 AM
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Do you guys think that there is any chance that enough owners/trainers will make smart enough decisions that we might not end up with 20 horses this year?
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Old 04-15-2007, 10:21 AM
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Do you guys think that there is any chance that enough owners/trainers will make smart enough decisions that we might not end up with 20 horses this year?
I wish it would happen but it's the chance of a life time no matter how slim.
Just to have your horse run in the Derby is an accomplishment not too many people could pass up. We criticize them all the time but could you decide not to run?

A few have not run and it worked out for them. Many of the horses that run in the derby never do another thing after. and I don't mean the breeding shed either
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:29 AM
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Do you guys think that there is any chance that enough owners/trainers will make smart enough decisions that we might not end up with 20 horses this year?
I think we will have 19 with the possibility of a 20th if either Storm in May or Bwana Bull decide to foolishly go.

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1 Street Sense (Street Cry) $1,532,000
2 Scat Daddy (Johannesburg) $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay (ThunderGulch) $1,116,134
4 Curlin (Smart Strike) $780,000
5 Great Hunter (Aptitude) $730,000
6 Nobiz Like Shobiz (Albert the Great) $778,500
7 Stormello (Stormy Atlantic) $642,900
8 Dominican (El Corredor) $633,848
9 Tiago (Pleasant Tap) $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat (Distorted Humor) $437,253
11 Hard Spun (Danzig) $360,000
12 Zanjero (Cherokee Run) $205,000
13 Any Given Saturday (Distorted Humor) $177,969
14 Liquidity (Tiznow) $161,200
15 Teuflesberg (Johannesburg) $160,440
16 Cobalt Blue (Golden Missile) $150,000
17 Sam P. (Cat Thief) $146,500
18 Sedgefield (Smart Strike) $127,500
19 Chelokee (Cherokee Run) $100,000
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Old 04-15-2007, 02:55 PM
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I think Chelokee will get in, he's sitting 22nd and There are a few in the top 20 that are unlikely. I dont know about Officer Rocket, but he didnt run that well yesterday maybe they will hold off on the derby. Who knows about Song in May also, so I think Chelokee will make it when all said and done.
Before yesterday's poor performance, Mr Holthus stated that if Officer Rocket was to run one-two in the AR Derby, that we would proceed to the KY Derby. Therefore, we will not be in the field this year.

On that note, he scoped clean yesterday after the race. he wasn't blowing hard at all. This just wasn't our day. It's hard for me to think that any horse was going to defeat Curlin yesterday. Unlike others in the industry, we could try to come up with ridiculous circumstances as to why he ran so poorly. However, this just wasn't our day. Now we must regroup and go from there.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:13 PM
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I can't see how Liquidity can be considered, stamina is an issue with him.
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Old 04-16-2007, 07:08 PM
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I'm starting to wonder about his chances in three weeks. I could see him hitting the board. He seems like an honest sort who should be running hard at the end.

If Chelokee were to be entered, he would be one of the "wiseguy" horses. After hearing about his Florida Derby run before seeing it, I thought that his trip was not as terrible as it was made out to be. I'd toss him if he were entered in the Derby.

What you did not see is his race prior to the Florida Derby. He had even a worse trip and yet re-rallied to win it in style. In that ALW race at gulfstream he was bumped pretty good and shuffled from 5th to last at the half mile pole and made a nice rally weaving in-n-out to win it. That was the reason I made a huge win/place bet on him in the Florida Derby. He was tucked nicely inside and was waiting for some room he never could get. He still switched to the outside to make a nice effort to come third.
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Old 04-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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I haven't heard anything about him but I highly doubt Sedgefield goes. . . The connections have Dominican in for sure and they know he's got a much better chance than Sedge on dirt. . . Sedgefield's last start was very disappointing and it was on his best surface. . . Unfortunately I think Belgravia or Joe Got even could knock out Chelokee. . .
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Old 04-15-2007, 08:37 AM
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1 Street Sense (Street Cry) $1,532,000
2 Scat Daddy (Johannesburg) $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay (ThunderGulch) $1,116,134
4 Curlin (Smart Strike) $780,000
5 Great Hunter (Aptitude) $730,000
6 Nobiz Like Shobiz (Albert the Great) $778,500
7 Stormello (Stormy Atlantic) $642,900
8 Dominican (El Corredor) $633,848
9 Tiago (Pleasant Tap) $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat (Distorted Humor) $437,253
11 Hard Spun (Danzig) $360,000
12 Zanjero (Cherokee Run) $205,000
X Xchanger (Exchange Rate) $202,890
13 Storm in May
14 Any Given Saturday (Distorted Humor) $177,969
15 Liquidity (Tiznow) $161,200
16 Teuflesberg (Johannesburg) $160,440
17 Officer Rocket (GB) (Officer) $153,260
18 Cobalt Blue (Golden Missile) $150,000
19 Sam P. (Cat Thief) $146,500
X Skip Code (Skip Away) $133,185
X Sedgefield (Smart Strike) $127,500

20 Bwana Bull (Holy Bull) $125,000

Ketchikan (Mr. Greeley) $120,000
Chelokee (Cherokee Run) $100,000
Reporting for Duty (Deputy Commander) $100,000
Belgravia (Mr. Greeley) $86,490
Bold Start (Jump Start) $85,000
Joe Got Even (Stephen Got Even) $56,440
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Old 04-15-2007, 11:31 AM
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1 Street Sense (Street Cry) $1,532,000
2 Scat Daddy (Johannesburg) $1,308,500
3 Circular Quay (ThunderGulch) $1,116,134
4 Curlin (Smart Strike) $780,000
5 Great Hunter (Aptitude) $730,000
6 Nobiz Like Shobiz (Albert the Great) $778,500
7 Stormello (Stormy Atlantic) $642,900
8 Dominican (El Corredor) $633,848
9 Tiago (Pleasant Tap) $450,000
10 Cowtown Cat (Distorted Humor) $437,253
11 Hard Spun (Danzig) $360,000
12 Zanjero (Cherokee Run) $205,000
X Xchanger (Exchange Rate) $202,890
13 Storm in May
14 Any Given Saturday (Distorted Humor) $177,969
15 Liquidity (Tiznow) $161,200
16 Teuflesberg (Johannesburg) $160,440
17 Officer Rocket (GB) (Officer) $153,260
18 Cobalt Blue (Golden Missile) $150,000
19 Sam P. (Cat Thief) $146,500
X Skip Code (Skip Away) $133,185
X Sedgefield (Smart Strike) $127,500

20 Bwana Bull (Holy Bull) $125,000

Ketchikan (Mr. Greeley) $120,000
Chelokee (Cherokee Run) $100,000
Reporting for Duty (Deputy Commander) $100,000
Belgravia (Mr. Greeley) $86,490
Bold Start (Jump Start) $85,000
Joe Got Even (Stephen Got Even) $56,440
Hey Steve, what did you hear about Sedgefield that caused you to cross him out? Last I heard they were considering trying to get him in yet another race to get enough earnings to get in. Now that they have enough I'd assume they'll just train up to the Derby. Was there something on ATRAB I missed?
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Old 04-15-2007, 05:41 PM
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Hey Steve, what did you hear about Sedgefield that caused you to cross him out? Last I heard they were considering trying to get him in yet another race to get enough earnings to get in. Now that they have enough I'd assume they'll just train up to the Derby. Was there something on ATRAB I missed?
I think today they said they're gonna train Sedgefield like he's going to the Derby and see how things shake out. He's not being taken off the trail by his connections. It'll be by lack of money if anything.
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Old 04-25-2007, 01:39 PM
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Now Bwana Bull ($125,000) may want in. Derby fever is taking over.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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NO--Teuf and Sedg both may get into the Derby NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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